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Yuan Yi Zhu
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Yuan Yi Zhu 17 min
Odgovor korisniku/ci @MacAree
That's what I normally feel about Britain.
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Yuan Yi Zhu 1 h
Odgovor korisniku/ci @senoJsicnarF @PaulFScott
Don't even get me started on how the Duchess of Kingston avoided the death penalty for bigamy by claiming to be a clergyman.
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Yuan Yi Zhu 1 h
Odgovor korisniku/ci @senoJsicnarF @PaulFScott
You know I've skipped the parts about kneeling and bowing and the men dressed in playing card costumes.
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Yuan Yi Zhu 1 h
Odgovor korisniku/ci @SerleQC
All the 19th century printed proceedings I've read say "upon my honour".
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Yuan Yi Zhu 1 h
Odgovor korisniku/ci @senoJsicnarF
Honestly I'd have been in favour. Way more entertaining than watching a Supreme Court stream.
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Yuan Yi Zhu 1 h
Odgovor korisniku/ci @SerleQC
No worries! It's not exactly serious scholarship ;-)
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Yuan Yi Zhu 1 h
Odgovor korisniku/ci @ProfChalmers
Comic crime writing just isn't the same when the story is set in some Crown Court with leaking pipes...
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Yuan Yi Zhu 1 h
Odgovor korisniku/ci @senoJsicnarF @PaulFScott
But it's actually true. All of it.
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Yuan Yi Zhu 1 h
Odgovor korisniku/ci @senoJsicnarF @PaulFScott
The entire thread could be made up and no one would be any the wiser.
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Yuan Yi Zhu 1 h
Odgovor korisniku/ci @willem_sming @ProfChalmers
Old works of constitutional law often had a chapter. Cecil Woodham-Smith's book on the Charge of the Light Brigade has an extremely good description of the trial of the Earl of Cardigan's trial for attempted murder .
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Yuan Yi Zhu 1 h
Odgovor korisniku/ci @senoJsicnarF @PaulFScott
It was the result of a 1679 compromise. Bishops did not want to be subject to the jurisdiction of the House of Lords but neither did they want to give up the right to give verdict on trials, so it was decided they would show up but leave before the verdict is taken.
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James Chalmers 2 h
Everything I know about this process (which as Yuan notes applied similarly to peers charged with felony or treason), I learned from Kind Hearts and Coronets. Which I'm not sure is a reliable source, but it is of course great fun.
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Yuan Yi Zhu 1 h
Odgovor korisniku/ci @ProfChalmers
Dorothy L. Sayers's "Clouds of Witness" also has a great description of the trial in the House of Lords, though I don't think either outdoes the real-life procedure in entertainment value.
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Yuan Yi Zhu 2 h
Odgovor korisniku/ci @senoJsicnarF @PaulFScott
Bishops attended the trial but excused themselves before the verdict was taken.
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Yuan Yi Zhu 2 h
Odgovor korisniku/ci @bryancsk
I think the High Stewart is called The King.
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Yuan Yi Zhu 2 h
Odgovor korisniku/ci @SerleQC
Yes, I explained the differences in the thread! As the procedures for both was very similar I talk about both.
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Yuan Yi Zhu 2 h
Odgovor korisniku/ci @yuanyi_z
The House of Lords still retains the right to try impeachments, though the last trial was in 1806. The last vote on articles of impeachment occurred in 1848. In 2004 there was a campaign to try Tony Blair. The whips stopped the motion from being debated, alas.
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Yuan Yi Zhu 2 h
Odgovor korisniku/ci @yuanyi_z
After a quick trial, Lord de Clifford (the twenty-sixth baron) was acquitted of vehicular manslaughter. He lived out an entirely unremarkable life and died in 1982. The right of peers to be tried by peers was abolished in 1948.
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Yuan Yi Zhu 2 h
Odgovor korisniku/ci @yuanyi_z
In the end hats and robes were worn by the fifty Barons, eleven Viscounts, sixteen Earls, three Marquesses, three Dukes, a Lord Privy Seal and a Lord High Steward, who attended. The total jury pool was of 21 Dukes, 27 Marquesses, 125 Earls, 75 Viscounts, and 461 Barons.
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Yuan Yi Zhu 2 h
Odgovor korisniku/ci @yuanyi_z
The Earl of Halsbury said he did attend the 1901 trial as his father was the presiding officer. He could not remember whether hats were worn or not and had nothing useful to add.
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