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William Morgan
Hearing rumors that will be donated to a foundation next week— but not the or . Instead, Google will create a custom foundation just for Istio. (!)
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William Morgan Jul 5
Replying to @Linkerd
Normally I ignore Istio's strategic plays, as they are usually the result of internal Google political machinery more than a rational plan. But since is committed to neutrality and open governance, my interest is piqued. Here are some q's I'll be asking:
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William Morgan Jul 5
Replying to @wm
1) Why a custom foundation? I'm guessing the stated reason will be something like how special Istio is and how no existing foundation would be right for this project. It's hard to imagine a really believable answer here, especially given how Kubernetes is like 100x more special.
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William Morgan Jul 5
Replying to @wm
2) Who has control? Will this be a truly neutral body that has representation from IBM / RedHat, VMWare, other Istio partners? Or will it be controlled by Googlers / Xooglers / third parties w/strong ties to Google? If the latter... have the partners been sold a bill of goods?
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William Morgan Jul 5
Replying to @wm
3) Will the foundation control the trademark? This is the real "teeth" of any foundation and without the ability to control who can use the I-word, ability to enforce is radically diminished. (Of course, this is only important if the foundation is really neutral!)
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William Morgan Jul 5
Replying to @wm
I know Google has been receiving tremendous pressure to put Istio in a foundation, esp from the DoD, which basically gave Google a public ultimatum about this earlier this year.
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William Morgan Jul 5
Replying to @wm
My pessimistic prediction is that next week we'll find out that this foundation is neutral in name only: Google's way of satisfying these customers while not actually ceding control over Istio. Why? I don't believe Google actually *wants* neutrality.
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William Morgan Jul 5
Replying to @GCPcloud @mattklein123
In fact I think they *blame* the neutrality of K8s for the fact that remains in third place despite K8s taking over the world. had a good thread about this earlier this year.
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William Morgan Jul 5
Replying to @Linkerd
But maybe I'm wrong and next week I'll be eating my words. That might actually be good. Certainly on the side we continue to hear from larger orgs especially that neutral hosting, open governance, etc are critical factors to their adoption.
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William Morgan Jul 5
Replying to @Linkerd @olix0r
For us, neutrality and vendor-independence are part and parcel of the vision for . Both and I are firmly committed to the idea that one can build both an OSS project and a company around it without making sacrifices in ability to serve adopters/customers of either
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William Morgan Jul 5
Replying to @Linkerd
is for life 💪
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