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In a deposition, the creator of Bitmessage has confirmed that the supposed chat messages between Dave Kleiman and Craig Wright are forgeries.
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WizSec Bitcoin Research Aug 13
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The messages in question are dated prior to Bitmessage's public release and use features that didn't exist until later releases. CSW's lawyers are clutching at straws to suggest Craig could have been given prerelease access, or "maybe a hacker did it".
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WizSec Bitcoin Research Aug 13
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Note that if these messages were genuine, Craig would know how he got the software and could simply state so himself. But instead of providing a coherent explanation, they're merely contending that it's not 100% certain that Craig is guilty.
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WizSec Bitcoin Research Aug 13
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To people believing that Craig could have had a pre-release version a few days early: pay attention. One of the messages shows a v4 address; these didn't exist until Bitmessage 0.4.0, released almost a year later. No explanation for this has been offered.
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WizSec Bitcoin Research Aug 14
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Correction: at least one "explanation" for the v4 address has now been floated: that addresses of old messages are automatically "upgraded" when you upgrade your Bitmessage installation. This is not the case.
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WizSec Bitcoin Research Aug 15
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In one of many attempts to try to suggest Bitmessage may have been publicly available earlier than thought, CSW's lawyers pointed to a May 2012 timestamp found in the Bitmessage v0.1.0 installer. It turns out this is just the PyInstaller wrapper.
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Cyb2600 Aug 13
This is totally different than the way presented it in his recap. I think he’s completely lost touch with reality
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22nd Century Crypto Aug 13
Nope I presented it that way, I believe. The defense burned the expert on this point. He picked his answered that fit HIS narrative. When he actually said it's possible a copy of the program could have been released into the "dark web" and that he actually spoke to CSW
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ɯɹoʇsuoı Aug 13
Btw guys, do any of you know how bitmessage works? When upgrading it converts the bitmessage address format in the message screen to a new v4 or newer address depending on the version. The messages were sent with old addresses and the client showed the converted addy's
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WizSec Bitcoin Research Aug 14
You're right, the creator and current maintainer could both be wrong, and you're making a pretty confident claim here. We'd better verify who's telling the truth. Surprise twist! It turns out you're full of shit.
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Riccardo Spagni Aug 15
But isn't is possible that Craig had a time machine, went forward in time, stole the code off GitHub to the newer version, went way back in time, uploaded the code to the dark web, went forward in time to 2012, downloaded the code off the dark web, and thus had a v4 address?
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WizSec Bitcoin Research Aug 15
Elementary, my dear Watson. Once we have precluded the possibility that Craig is wrong, whatever remains must, however implausible, be the truth. And if something is possible, you can't deny the plausible probability that it's practically certain.
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22nd Century Crypto Aug 13
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Picking and choosing just like the plantiffs did.
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Peter McCormack Aug 13
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
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Justin Connelly Aug 14
Unbelievable, what an incredible farce this is.
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Tanuki 🌮⚡️🔑 Aug 13
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drones in disbelief
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Richard Bensberg Aug 13
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OBJECTION!!!
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WizSec Bitcoin Research Aug 13
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Richard Bensberg Aug 13
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And they produced yet another printout of an email to try to dig him out of this hole...🤣
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$CashMeIfYouCan ⚡ Aug 13
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the 😈 is in the details. looks to me like bitcoin research wizsecurity hasn't done their research... I have seen this debunked somewhere two years ago..
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cryptoskillz Aug 14
"I have seen this debunked somewhere two years ago.." Be vaguer please
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$CashMeIfYouCan ⚡ Aug 14
maybe next time 😎
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$CashMeIfYouCan ⚡ Aug 14
you see when i was researching bitcoin I went through pretty much everything from the beginning to now. I cannot remember where exactly I found what information as I only saved some links..
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cryptoskillz Aug 14
Then do not try to counter hard fact (under oath no less) with a memory you have of something you once saw somewhere about 2 years ago.
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WizSec Bitcoin Research Aug 14
The deposition of the Bitmessage creator on July 24, 2019 was debunked two years ago...? More time travel! 😮
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$CashMeIfYouCan ⚡ Aug 14
yes. I'm indeed years ahead it seems
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