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Siobhan Thompson, mysterious European heiress
My mum studied cults ("new religious movements" mum please don't tell me off) and her first and only rule of how to not get into a cult was "do not. Under ANY CIRCUMSTANCE!!! Debate them." Because they got debated into the cult and know the arguments that work.
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Siobhan Thompson, mysterious European heiress 30 Aug 18
Replying to @vornietom
So yeah that's why all those Alt-Right chodes are always yelling DEBATE MEEEEEEE every chance they get. Debate isn't a fair and reasoned discussion, it's an extremely effective recruitment tool. You don't have to debate them. Nobody does.
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Siobhan Thompson, mysterious European heiress 30 Aug 18
Replying to @vornietom
this is ESPECIALLY true if you are at college or university and think you're hot shit. I mean maybe you are, but people who approach you to talk about politics or religion have all the facts they need in their pockets. You're just a rando who's good at molar calculations.
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Siobhan Thompson, mysterious European heiress 30 Aug 18
Replying to @vornietom
You can say no and you're not the lesser person. THEY came into YOUR space, you didn't invite them in.
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Siobhan Thompson, mysterious European heiress 30 Aug 18
Replying to @vornietom
To everyone trying to debate me in my mentions, please refer to this accurate gif from your favorite movie
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Paul F. Tompkins 1 Sep 18
Replying to @vornietom
HAHAHAHA
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Siobhan Thompson, mysterious European heiress 3 Sep 18
Replying to @PFTompkins
I'm a lil stinker
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Mara “Get Rid of the Nazis” Wilson 30 Aug 18
Replying to @vornietom
I just heard the other day that people who have been labeled “above average intelligence“ are the most likely to be sucked into cults
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Siobhan Thompson, mysterious European heiress 30 Aug 18
Replying to @MaraWilson
yeah because they are both unsatisfied with their life and think that they are too smart so going to just one meeting will be fine
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jackie haunted womb carbajal 30 Aug 18
Replying to @vornietom @MaraWilson
Just here to listen to more about what your mom learned about cults. I’m fascinated.
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Siobhan Thompson, mysterious European heiress 30 Aug 18
she was studying sanyassins from Wild Wild Country at the ranch in Oregon when she was pregnant with me so I was technically there right before all the shit went down. I like sanyassins, they're mostly lovely very inclusive stoners
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jackie haunted womb carbajal 30 Aug 18
Replying to @vornietom @MaraWilson
Ooooh if she had a book I would read it or if you had one from in the womb. I’ll read both!
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Siobhan Thompson, mysterious European heiress 30 Aug 18
she co-wrote one way back in the day called The Way Of The Heart
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Dylan 30 Aug 18
Just bought this on my Kindle, excited to dive into it.😊
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🏳️‍🌈 Dick Clark 30 Aug 18
Replying to @vornietom @MaraWilson
I was a Mormon missionary. She's 100% correct. (Not that you needed my confirmation...simply adding personal experience to support the statement :) )
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Siobhan Thompson, mysterious European heiress 30 Aug 18
It always amazed me the people who are like "hmm yes I'll show them, I'm smart" to people who are literally having this same conversation all day every day
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dbqp 30 Aug 18
I debated both Mormons and Scientologists when I was younger. They were all like, "maybe you don't need to join". Really find it difficult to believe intelligent, informed people will just be sucked unwillingly into Scientology through a simple conversation (/debate, whatever).
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🏳️‍🌈 Dick Clark 30 Aug 18
Unfortunately, you'd be surprised. Especially if the dogma is delivered in a (sometimes, in Mormons cases) teenaged, enthusiastic, unearned confidence wearing package that won't take no for an answer because their literal souls depend on conversion
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dbqp 30 Aug 18
Is the conversion happening because of the missionaries' superior debating skills or because they seem like nice, upbeat people and if you join you'll get a bunch of new awesome friends? Most Christians who try to convert me are charismatic and super nice, not good debaters.
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🏳️‍🌈 Dick Clark 30 Aug 18
For me, it was a combination of both. Also, depended on the 'mark' and missionary. I completely understand where you're coming from (now) but I've seen entire generations convert based on the missionary's charisma and ability to construct logical fallacy
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dbqp 30 Aug 18
I just think it's a dangerous idea you should not debate people with whom you disagree because maybe they know some black magic that will convert you against your will. People who have a good understanding of their own values and beliefs don't go around getting converted.
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dbqp 30 Aug 18
Also, conversion is not always a bad thing. E.g. this ex-Trumper who is showing up in my feed: He got converted by rational arguments on liberal twitter. Maybe people are converted because they don't have strong beliefs, not because of magic debate skills.
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