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Tyler Breisacher
Okay, now that I've had a little more time. Just a few more comments from me.
We’re announcing seven principles to guide our work in AI.
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Tyler Breisacher Jun 7
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1. Be socially beneficial. This one is kind of saying, do good things instead of bad things. Which is good I guess, if rather vague.
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Tyler Breisacher Jun 7
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2. Avoid creating or reinforcing unfair bias. This is super important for sure. When I read the word 'bias' I of course think about how un-diverse Google's workforce is, and how that means certain biases are maybe going to be hard for them to see.
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Tyler Breisacher Jun 7
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But it's good to see this one listed so close to the top.
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Tyler Breisacher Jun 7
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4. Be accountable to people. This is really nice to see. When a human makes a decision, you can ask them why they made it. When a trained machine learning model does, you don't necessarily have much visibility into "why" it did something.
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Tyler Breisacher Jun 7
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They showed off something internally a while back, along these lines. Hopefully the mention of feedback/explanations here means that will be public soon (or maybe it was already shown off at some point, idk)
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Tyler Breisacher Jun 7
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It certainly would have been nice to see a specific explanation of why Maven was cancelled, e.g. "We believe that doing more work on Maven would force us to violate these principles because..." but perhaps that's better done in a separate post anyway.
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Tyler Breisacher Jun 7
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Anyway it's definitely nice to see this list, and I'm optimistic about the future of AI at Google, I think. Also optimistic about the power of employees to organize and force things to change.
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Tyler Breisacher Jun 7
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The real test comes the next time Google is considering a controversial project. Will they look closely at these principles when deciding whether to do it? Who will decide whether the project violates them?
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Tyler Breisacher Jun 7
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How much input will that decider take from Googlers, from the general public, from ethicists and academics, etc?
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Tyler Breisacher Jun 7
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I also want to highlight this Like... 😐 Reporters if you're writing about this, you might try to ask non-US Googlers for comment on that line, I guess.
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Tyler Breisacher Jun 7
Replying to @the_good_matty
I don't know maybe I'm just in a weirdly good mood rn and by tomorrow I'm gonna be like "actually, forget it, I don't trust you to hold to these rules"
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Tyler Breisacher Jun 7
Replying to @the_good_matty
We were promised this list a while back so maybe it's partly just that I'm excited to actually see that promise fulfilled.
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Tyler Breisacher Jun 7
Replying to @the_good_matty
but also: Worker power! Did you see the Jacobin interview? Things are starting to shift...
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Phones Not Drones Jun 8
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Dude, it's all BS doublespeak. Last week they "canceled maven" but didn't cancel maven. This week they "won't build weapons" but will just supply technology to militaries. Don't believe the hype.
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Phones Not Drones Jun 8
^^ is guilty of problem 1, juries out whether she's fed misinformation or feeding misinformation
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Phones Not Drones Jun 8
Oh and and people like might want to know why the misinformation occurred from . Because leadership found out their were stories about the protest and wanted a bigger cycle to swallow it. Sundar callee shot,not Diane.
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Tyler Breisacher Jun 8
I'm not sure I totally follow what you're saying
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Tyler Breisacher Jun 8
I agree cancelling the contract that was already signed would have been way better than the promise not to renew, that we got. But I still count it as a win for sure.
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