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Sam ScorsonešŸ
Dad, Husband, Engineer, Bills Fan, Star Wars Geek!
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Sam ScorsonešŸ Nov 14
The truth is out there, unless they destroyed the original cut.
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Sam ScorsonešŸ Nov 14
Replying to @ALupi15
What Streaming services do you have? Disney plus Netflix plus...
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Sam ScorsonešŸ Nov 14
Don't discount some people wanting this to be their meal ticket for the rest of their life and wanting it to be a "them film" - like how all Tim Burton movies are "Tim Burton Movies" or "Nolan films" ya know. Not wanting to get lost in the rules of the movie.
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Sam ScorsonešŸ Nov 14
Replying to @MatthewKellyyy
Otherwise while the appeal of "REAL sets and practical effects?" If not for the return to a tangibility on the part of the movie. Again, that balance of real and fantasy, of a real Yoda puppet, made on Earth, interacting in a fantasy land.
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Sam ScorsonešŸ Nov 14
Replying to @MatthewKellyyy
But again, even a character like Yoda in Empire - obviously not real - but the Puppet is real. We *know* the puppet is real; Jabba is a real thing in the world - as puppets. CGI Yoda... some people liked it, some don't - i think for that reason that it wasn't real.
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Sam ScorsonešŸ Nov 14
Right, once they saw past the huge box office numbers of Jurassic Hurl they were like, "Why did we hire this guy?" :)
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Sam ScorsonešŸ Nov 14
Replying to @MatthewKellyyy
To add to this: the movies are a 'tourist destination' for people who watch movies. "What? You never seen Star Wars?! You gotta check it out!"
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Sam ScorsonešŸ Nov 14
Replying to @MatthewKellyyy
Me neither, but I think that may help us understand where the criticism is coming from. So in our world we can push, pull, jump, run, choke and in SW the Jedi/Sith Force- those things: force push, pull, etc. But no one can 'project' themselves to another place, ya know
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Sam ScorsonešŸ Nov 14
Replying to @MatthewKellyyy
And that's what I'm trying to understand is what made it 'great?' I think it was in part due to timing. Would ANH released today, as it is, be as popular? Surely the jaded adult fans who think SW Resistance is for kids, wouldn't see a movie for 12 year olds.
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Sam ScorsonešŸ Nov 14
Replying to @MatthewKellyyy
I suppose the fantasy aspect vs science fiction is being able to imagine yourself in that world. And I think SW balances that fantasy element with something tangible. I think the prequels got flack because it had elements that violated that balance.
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Sam ScorsonešŸ Nov 14
Replying to @MatthewKellyyy
It's like this: should a Star Wars movies break box office records every time because they are the best movies ever made OR because they're simply popular? Transformers made a shit ton of money, but are shitty movies.
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Sam ScorsonešŸ Nov 14
Replying to @MatthewKellyyy
It's almost real enough, it could be true. That if I just concrete hard enough I'll be able to force pull that object. This is all in the spirit of childhood. Where a blanket is a rocket ship. Ya know? Superman has no basis in reality.
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Sam ScorsonešŸ Nov 14
Replying to @MatthewKellyyy
Yes, that's the 'fantasy' element of it, the fun, if you will. It's having one foot in reality, and the other in fantasy. Maybe that's the appeal of Harry Potter, its wizards and witches in the real world. Or Lord of the Rings with its medieval imagery.
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Sam ScorsonešŸ Nov 14
Replying to @MatthewKellyyy
I often wondered: What is Star Wars famous for? Its characters? Its story? Its special effect pioneering? Its popularity? All the above? I'd say its general popularity - a lot of people like and that in turns creates this allure, and a sort of "other people like it, so I should"
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Sam ScorsonešŸ Nov 14
I don't recall if we ever really learned what happened, but I think that's part of it, the other part might be LFL surrounding themselves with people they like working with, and IIRC he was hard to work with at times?
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Sam ScorsonešŸ Nov 14
Replying to @MatthewKellyyy
The uphill climb SW has is that part of what it's famous for is being famous movie. It's famous for being popular, but popular with whom? And that depends on your culture, upbringing, etc. Maybe that's why it's not so popular in China is because it doesn't have history there?
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Sam ScorsonešŸ Nov 14
Replying to @MatthewKellyyy
I would say the aesthetic and appeal is its otherwise worldliness. This is a good example of what I mean, Cassian is flying in a space ship, going faster than light, but his headphones look like something from the 70s and his clothes look plain
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Sam ScorsonešŸ Nov 14
I think the treatments are okay, but I think the other two are sort of embarrassing maybe? It's like a deleted tweet being publicly released; what was a slip in judgement or a mistake is now there for the taking, and usually done so negatively.
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Sam ScorsonešŸ Nov 14
Replying to @lordsoftheseth
Last night I noticed Gilroy was created in the Screen writing of R1. I would love to know how much of that film was completely redone. It's just, what do you do with that information? Make some cool YT videos probably
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Sam ScorsonešŸ Nov 14
Replying to @lordsoftheseth
The probability wave hasn't collapsed for only one of those: Rogue One is what it is, the IX script may no longer be relevant and is equally meaningless. However, the sequel treatments are the only ones that offer a look into what /might/ be, at least until 12/2019
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