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Shay O'Reilly
Some organizing rules I teach my ppl, from all kinds of places (notably - on the last one - adrienne maree brown)
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Colored Frames Feb 9
#3 is key and tricky. It took me years to understand.
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♥️hands off Venezuela Feb 9
Are leaders taught to make decisions by concensus? (very newbie)
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Fenwick Feb 9
Replying to @shaygabriel
Do you know Dan Harmon?
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LovedSon Feb 10
Replying to @shaygabriel
Do not lie to the people you organize. Probably the number one rule violated by organizers. Great rules to follow!
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Shay O'Reilly Feb 10
Replying to @zz2aa @vivamarilynbuck
No - consensus is not always appropriate for all things. I do teach facilitation and some group decision-making.
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♥️hands off Venezuela Feb 10
Thank you for answering. So you don't feel I set a trap, I will just say that I disagree. I think everything can be done by consensus. Would love to discuss if you are interested.
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Shay O'Reilly Feb 10
Replying to @zz2aa @vivamarilynbuck
I actually used to do everything by consensus —I come out of a political culture that put consensus first. But I believe now that there are many ways of democratic decision making, and many ways of building collaborative culture, and a rigid attachment to consensus is unhelpful.
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Daniel Husman Feb 10
Tell me more about #3 please? Doesn't it make solving a problem like global warming impossible?
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Shay O'Reilly Feb 10
Replying to @danhusman @DSA_Enviro
I believe strongly that most people, if given the choice, would not choose to get their energy from a system that pollutes their air, poisons their water, threatens their children, and harms their neighbor. We can have a vision for climate action that improves people’s lives.
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Shay O'Reilly Feb 10
Replying to @danhusman @DSA_Enviro
In addition, many of the things we need to do for a livable climate are things that will improve people’s lives: breaking up corporate Ag, ending environmental racism, better transit, more leisure time, greener neighborhoods, good jobs.
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nicholas cummins Feb 10
that’s a damn good list
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upper-middle class with blue collar affect guy Feb 10
'consensus' is often tyrannical in its insistence that all people must agree on a particular issue, or that a group cannot advance without an often unobtainable 100%. it's less 'radically inclusive' and more 'allows individuals to hijack a process' leading to cynicism
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Susan Halley Feb 10
The self interest lies in the fact that we all want to breathe.
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Daniel Husman Feb 10
Agree. Many (probably most!) things we need to do are in immediate self interest. But I think there are others where self interest is not a sufficient frame. You mention harm to neighbors, for example--that already exceeds narrow self interest.
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Daniel Husman Feb 10
I'm thinking of, for example, eating less meat; that seems like a change that requires sacrifice of narrow self interest and that is required for a sustainable future.
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Daniel Husman Feb 10
I also think self interest typically defined is a Western concept that ignores non Western, especially indigenous, ways of relating to others and to 'nature.'
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Randy Mayeux Feb 10
Replying to @shaygabriel
These are very good...
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PCI Research Journal Feb 10
Replying to @shaygabriel @namirari
For ShaynO'Reilly …
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Milan Prazak Ilnyckyj Feb 10
Replying to @shaygabriel
Is always presenting things positively/as a win a sound motivational technique, or a form of lying to fellow organizers?
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