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Chris Hayes Jun 18
Last comment on this: "concentration camp" is an extremely charged term and I get why many people are, in good faith, uncomfortable with its application for Godwin's Law purposes among others. So let's just call them "detention camps" and focus on what's happening in them.
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Mike Godwin
Chris, I think they're concentration camps. Keep in mind that one of their functions *by design* is to punish those individuals and families who are detained. So even the "charged" term is appropriate.
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Steve Zorowitz Jun 18
Definition of concentration camp : a place where large numbers of people (such as prisoners of war, political prisoners, refugees, or the members of an ethnic or religious minority) are detained or confined under armed guard
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Mike Godwin Jun 18
Of course.
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Maggie McGlothin Jun 18
Yes, thank you, Mike. Chris is wrong on this.
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Mike Godwin Jun 18
I don't mean to hammer Chris. I understand the impulse to softpedal the comparisons perhaps more than most people. But I also swore to myself decades ago never to close my eyes to needless horror and cruelty, especially when they are considered design features.
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Mike Godwin Jun 18
Yes. But your question unwittingly reveals your agenda. You'd like this to be a political question, as if those who oppose an inhumane policy do because it's Trump's policy. I oppose inhumane treatment of refugees and immigrants because it's the only moral choice.
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Nikki Berry Jun 19
I'm now remembering the Godwin behind Godwin's law is a real person and realizing he's still very much alive.
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Christati Notanazi Jun 19
Thank you 🙏 so grateful you are speaking up in this. Haven’t seen it addressed in MSM unfortunately
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Mike Godwin Jun 19
Replying to @chrislhayes
The punishment aspect of child separation is discussed, inter alia, here:
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