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Rebecca Nagle Feb 9
Replying to @ryangrim
Also, genealogists looked for her family members on the over 45 records and rolls of Cherokee ppl from 1817 to 1914, and they're not there. The widespread myth that scores of Cherokee were simply left off records whitewashes a brutally violent history.
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Rebecca Nagle Feb 9
Replying to @ryangrim
Like Nazis, US kept very detailed records of our genocide including all Cherokees who needed to be removed, every traveler on the Trail of Tears and all citizens for land allotments when our treaty territory was dissolved, including ppl incarcerated for refusing to participate.
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Rebecca Nagle Feb 9
Replying to @ryangrim
Warren is not alone, twice as many ppl self-identified as Cherokee on the last US census that are enrolled in our 3 tribes--nearly half a mil ppl. The great-great-grandma story is really common w/ white ppl, esp from OK. And Warren's not unique version of it is simply not true.
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Rebecca Nagle Feb 9
Replying to @ryangrim
I appreciate Warren's apology to my chief & on capitol hill this week, but w/o a full, clean & public apology it rings hollow. Myths about blood & race are being used by the far right to attack tribal sovereignty & the DNA test fiasco made things worse.
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Ryan Grim Feb 9
Replying to @rebeccanagle
She apologized publicly, I don’t folllow Also why hasn’t the conversation about “myths about blood and race” included the Cherokee Nation fight, that only ended in 2017, against Cherokee Freedmen for not having the “blood of Cherokee” I mean, that was 2017! This feels selective
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Ryan Grim Feb 9
Replying to @rebeccanagle
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PrairieFire2016 Feb 9
Replying to @ryangrim @rebeccanagle
So you’ve progressed from being horrified about anti-Native racism to colonialistically instructing Cherokees about their own history because their voices are inconvenient to you? Thanks for being a textbook illustration of how & white entitlement are harmful!
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Ryan Grim Feb 9
This is not about instructing anybody Cherokee. CN obviously knows their history and the details of the fight with the Cherokee Freedmen. But most other people don’t, and this is a public website.
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Imagine Otherwise Feb 9
This history is incredibly complex and painful; it's certainly more complicated than your little "gotcha" tweet would indicate. If you want to know more about the ongoing Freedmen struggles, you need to do more than Google. This is just a cheap move to shift the conversation.
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Imagine Otherwise Feb 9
It's exhausting to have non-Indigenous know-it-alls taking up our time in educating them on complex matters and then evading the actual resources we provide. Do the research, Ryan, and listen for a change. And maybe think a bit about how your assumed authority is coming across.
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Ryan Grim
I’m not presuming any authority. But EW has apologized for the very things that she was asked to apologize for. IMO to continue to blast her at every moment, even after that, is just doing Trump’s work and enabling his smears. Just my opinion.
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Rebecca Nagle Feb 9
I have a cold, I'm taking some NyQuil & going to bed. I appreciate your work at , Ryan, but on this issue you need to do sit down and listen to Native ppl. Again, here is a ready list we put together:
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Ryan Grim Feb 10
Hope you feel better, appreciate the syllabus
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Imagine Otherwise Feb 9
We know it's your opinion, Ryan. And your opinion isn't engaged with the complicated context for Cherokee frustration, nor does it take up the harms that are part of the issue. So it's an under-informed opinion that contributes absolutely nothing but wastes our time and energy.
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Imagine Otherwise Feb 9
has offered extensive resources and given a huge amount of time and emotional labour to this matter, yet you've done nothing here but bob and weave. It's discourteous and unprofessional to draw people into conversation if you're not going to engage those resources.
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PrairieFire2016 Feb 9
“Enabling his smears.” Translation: you, , are to blame for anti-Native racism because you pointing out bigotry of Warren is inconvenient to & her supporters.
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PrairieFire2016 Feb 9
Again, when has she apologized for attacking/maligning her Native critics? She apologized for the DNA debacle that she herself created. And how convenient that your opinion just happens to position Native voices as “Trump’s work.”
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OC2PS Nov 11
Rather than push your opinion, it may serve you well as a journalist to really listen with an intent of understanding where people with actual lived experience, people affected, are coming from Maybe the apology is not enough. Maybe it makes things worse
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