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Brian Tomasik
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9. sij |
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BTW, sorry if my reply sounds rude. :) Twitter's length limits reduce the ability to be polite...
I don't know what fraction of cattle slaughter is abysmal. I agree that cattle slaughter can sometimes be not that bad if done properly.
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Brian Tomasik
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Plausibly better than most wild animals, but I think worse than most humans. Unlike humans, they can't take action to fix bad conditions. I've personally seen "small farm" beef cows in a freezing barn with frozen water bowls. Slaughter can be terrible: washingtonpost.com/archive/politi…
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Brian Tomasik
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> lives in peaceful bliss
My impression is that many cattle are castrated (possibly without anaesthesia), dehorned, branded, etc. And then there are ordinary stressors like being too cold or hot, being constantly pestered by flies, etc.
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Brian Tomasik
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Thanks. :) This piece has some speculations about the net impact of different animal products: reducing-suffering.org/vegetarianism-… Even for beef, I think it's pretty unclear whether it reduces or increases net wild-animal suffering, and more research would help.
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Brian Tomasik
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There hasn't been a lot of research into reducing animal deaths in crop farming. One recent overview of the issue is doi.org/10.1007/s10806… There is a fair amount of literature on more humane vertebrate pest control.
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Brian Tomasik
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One reason many advocates focus more on farm animals is that farm animals endure human-caused bad conditions for their whole lives, not just at death. But yes, part of it is also a non-consequentialist focus more on those "intentionally" harmed than on those incidentally harmed.
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Brian Tomasik
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3. sij 2019. |
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Thanks. :) One could argue that even if wild and farmed animals both have positive lives, farming often displaces more animal life than it creates: "Human Diets and Animal Welfare: the Illogic of the Larder" doi.org/10.1007/s10806…
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Brian Tomasik
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15. pro 2018. |
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When attempting to align artificial general intelligence (AGI) with human values, there's a possibility of getting alignment mostly correct but slightly wrong, possibly in ways that would cause astronomical suffering. reducing-suffering.org/near-miss/
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Brian Tomasik
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31. lis 2018. |
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Thanks. :) eukaryotewritesblog.com/how-many-neuro… has more refined estimates.
"6.29E20 neurons in humans"
"1E23 – 2E23 neurons from land arthropods"
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Brian Tomasik
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2. kol 2018. |
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I think one of the stronger motivations would be to deny that "existence" is even a thing: reducing-suffering.org/why-does-physi… Sadly, I haven't read much about this topic yet.
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Brian Tomasik
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21. srp 2018. |
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As my article says, I don't know if regular data centers would actually lose data due to an EMP or just go offline for some time. It's also possible that flash drives would be fine. Until I learn more, I'm just being cautious. :) Let me know if you find out more about this.
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Brian Tomasik
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10. srp 2018. |
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PETA has suggestions on prevention and repellants. I don't know how well these suggestions work.
peta.org/issues/wildlif…
peta.org/living/humane-…
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Brian Tomasik
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10. srp 2018. |
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You could also try waiting to see if the problem goes away on its own, though you probably have a better idea than I do of whether that's likely.
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Brian Tomasik
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10. srp 2018. |
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However, if you have to destroy the whole colony, this wouldn't work, and maybe it's best to just get finished with destroying the colony rather than dragging out the process.
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Brian Tomasik
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10. srp 2018. |
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I assume you have to kill the ants in their nest? If the ants are only out in the open and not in a hidden nest, then scooping them into a Ziploc bag to take outside or put in the freezer could be reasonable (reducing-suffering.org/kill-bugs-huma…).
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Brian Tomasik
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10. srp 2018. |
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Borax is probably not great. I don't know what caused the suffering of the ants in this video, but it might have been borax: youtube.com/watch?v=1j87fq…
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Brian Tomasik
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10. srp 2018. |
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I don't have great solutions. :| You can search {vegan ant control}, though I don't know how well those suggestions work.
I'm pretty uninformed about this topic, but I wrote a reply to someone else who had the same question, which I'll paste in the next few messages.
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Brian Tomasik
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21. lip 2018. |
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FWIW, I think the sign of climate change is very unclear, but there's a significant risk of it increasing wild-animal suffering if it increases plant productivity. reducing-suffering.org/climate-change…
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Brian Tomasik
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19. svi 2018. |
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Injustice tends to result in suffering, so absence of conflict while still having injustice isn't supported by negative utilitarianism (unless the alternatives would result in more suffering).
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Brian Tomasik
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9. svi 2018. |
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Both views agree that we have experiences that can be predicted using the laws of physics. Physicalism says the equations of physics are ontologically fundamental and imply that we'll be conscious of things. Idealism says the experiences are fundamental.
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