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Peter Krupa ๐ŸŒน
if we are going to do traffic enforcement at all, speed cameras are the most racially-neutral way to do it. imho one reason (especially white) people get SO WORKED UP about speed cameras is because their privilege isn't working.
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Peter Krupa ๐ŸŒน Jun 28
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no matter what neighborhood you put speed cams in, they are only going to catch speeders. "if you don't want to get caught, don't break the law" is often a facetious and insensitive thing to say given the disparities in the way policing is done, but it's 100% for speed cams.
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Peter Krupa ๐ŸŒน Jun 28
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finally, the problem is never too many speed cameras and always too few. the only places i've ever ridden my bike where motorists go the speed limit are where there are speed cameras. they ABSOLUTELY work. expectation of enforcement changes driver behavior, full stop.
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Peter Krupa ๐ŸŒน Jun 28
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*100% true, that is.
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Raphael ๐Ÿ‡ซ๐Ÿ‡ท Jun 28
Replying to @peterkrupa
Peter Iโ€™m sorry but itโ€™s not quite that simple.
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Peter Krupa ๐ŸŒน Jun 28
Replying to @DumasRaphael
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Raphael ๐Ÿ‡ซ๐Ÿ‡ท Jun 28
Replying to @peterkrupa
Thanks for sharing that critique. I am very hesitate to categorically label any form of enforcement, even automated, as โ€œrace-neutralโ€. See for example Vicky Mochamaโ€™s critique of blanketing the City with red light cameras (Iโ€™ll try finding the thread)
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Peter Krupa ๐ŸŒน Jun 28
Replying to @DumasRaphael
i've been almost killed enough times by reckless, heedless drivers that i'm ok with the trade-off. you don't want a ticket, don't break the law.
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Raphael ๐Ÿ‡ซ๐Ÿ‡ท Jun 28
Replying to @peterkrupa
Also just realized youโ€™re based in DC. Your thread got retweeted by a Toronto journalist.
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Peter Krupa ๐ŸŒน Jun 28
Replying to @DumasRaphael
in DC, the speed cams are only triggered if someone is going 10mph over. that's 36mph in a 25. really you have to be driving extremely recklessly to get a ticket from a speed cam. i drive all the time and i've never gotten one.
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Will Jun 28
Fwiw, I am 100% in favor of speed cameras over live enforcement and share your disdain for dangerous drivers. However, in this piece I wanted to critique enforcement as a vision zero strategy in a society where enforcement is necessarily racist.
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Peter Krupa ๐ŸŒน Jun 28
Replying to @wjfarr @DumasRaphael
i would VASTLY prefer Vision Zero over enforcement, but Vision Zero in DC is almost exclusively a PR slogan, so as a political exercise, anything saying "don't do XYZ because Vision Zero would do it differently" is just saying "don't do XYZ"
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Will Jun 28
Iโ€™m not saying donโ€™t do anything. Iโ€™m saying that when you do enforcement, it is especially necessary to do it with an eye towards equity.
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Peter Krupa ๐ŸŒน Jun 28
Replying to @wjfarr @DumasRaphael
that's not your fault, but i'm more interested in political realities that can make the roads safer than ideal Vision Zero design. i've seen the traffic cams make the roads safer, haven't seen Vision Zero do that yet.
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Peter Krupa ๐ŸŒน Jun 28
Replying to @wjfarr @DumasRaphael
if you can find someone who actually wants to spend some political capital on VZ, great, i'm 100% all in. but we already have PLENTY of pushback on traffic cams and i'm not in favor of more of it.
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Peter Krupa ๐ŸŒน Jun 28
Replying to @wjfarr @DumasRaphael
you're surmising a problem that is not clear even exists, but now we can be sure every time they put in a new traffic cam it'll add a new layer of community consultation and they'll have to study it for five years first, so thank you for that!
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Peter Krupa ๐ŸŒน Jun 28
Replying to @wjfarr @DumasRaphael
fwiw, i live in a white neighborhood, but i am SURE my neighbors who HATE the traffic cams will use your study to concern-troll any proposal for new traffic cams.
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Will Jun 28
There are 17x more traffic citations in predominately black neighborhoods than predominantly white neighborhoods despite similar rates of crashes. The topic requires nuance to address but the disparity is simply too large to ignore racism.
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Peter Krupa ๐ŸŒน Jun 28
Replying to @wjfarr @DumasRaphael
you're framing it as too many citations in black neighborhoods rather than too few in white neighborhoods.
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Will Jun 28
I discussed both at length in the article.
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