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Peter B
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Peter B 7h
Replying to @njl
On reflection it turns out I actually can wait.
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Peter B 7h
I cannot wait to read the summary of this Hacker News thread where hackernews is confused about why the humanities exist.
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Peter B 11h
And I think it’s worth respecting that understanding, and not pretending that this is just about them making bad decisions.
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Peter B 11h
Part of the reason I’m pushing back on this “carefully weigh the faculty bonafides” argument is not because I want bad colleges, but because I think kids understand that the reality that the reason we pay so much for college is about class, not competence.
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Peter B 11h
The word we’re all avoiding using is “class”, and it’s central to why Trump is toxic to Tom’s (reasonable) desire for expertise. What you get from Yale (or whatever Ivy) is the same thing Trump gets: power as a gift on the basis of social class and connections.
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Peter B 12h
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Peter B 12h
I know more people whose lives were changed by their undergrad degree because they met their future spouse or business partner there than because they took a particular set of courses from THIS teacher. That sort of serendipity is literally not something you can select for.
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Peter B 12h
It also presupposes that the actual benefits of an undergraduate degree are connected in some strong way to faculty quality, which is a popular opinion among faculty but probably untrue. And it presupposes that faculty quality can be meaningfully compared in a fine-grained way.
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Peter B 12h
Replying to @HexCodeWitch
Which is, y’know, arguably one of the definitions of the central problem.
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Peter B 12h
Replying to @HexCodeWitch
I think there are certainly systemic benefits for people in elite universities, but those are different from “Let’s analytically weigh how good the faculty are.” If tomorrow every Harvard professor was revealed as terrible, Harvard grads would still reap systemic benefits.
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Peter B 12h
Replying to @HexCodeWitch
I think my perspective looking back is that the coincidental or serendipitous things that happened in college were 10 times as important as any of the formal education, and by definition you can’t predict where those types of things will happen.
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Peter B 13h
A modest proposal: take the Federal holiday we get for 4th of July and apply it to Election Day instead.
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Peter B 14h
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Peter B 14h
Replying to @RadioFreeTom @psu_13
So can we at least agree that for (say) comparing undergrad educations at various Ivy League schools, you may as well pick the one whose dorms are air conditioned? That's basically my contention: _within a given tier_, I'm not convinced there's that much difference.
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Peter B 14h
Replying to @RadioFreeTom @psu_13
If the cars are otherwise indistinguishable, buying the one whose color you like more seems like a perfectly good criterion.
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Peter B 14h
Replying to @RadioFreeTom @psu_13
Let me play devil's advocate: The honest truth is that the spread in quality of *undergraduate* education among top universities is quite narrow, so maybe optimizing on other factors is the right choice, at least until grad school.
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Peter B 14h
Replying to @erinkpgh @charlygilpin
If you read about "Monongahela culture" one inference is that the people living here were possibly ravaged by trader-borne diseases in the 1600s w/o direct contact with Europeans, and then other nearby nations (including native ones) fought over the vacuum left by them.
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Peter B 14h
Replying to @erinkpgh @charlygilpin
Wikipedia claims the Shawnee though?
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Peter B 15h
Replying to @erinkpgh @charlygilpin
says the Osage.
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Peter B 15h
Replying to @importantshock
Real talk, Springsteen may be the musician for whom the gap between "what he actually writes/says/stands for" and "what white america thinks he means" is largest.
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