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Universal Basic Income Now, Fuckers! Jul 18
Replying to @holski_beat
'And actually', if the graun does go to the wall, it might create the kind of space that new left media, if it is savvy, could move into, a space which the graun has typically occupied to serve the function of gatekeeper over what anything to the left of fascism is legitimate
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Owen Hatherley Jul 18
Replying to @holski_beat
I doubt it will, because a fair few left writers and editors will see a large chunk of their freelance income disappear
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Owen Hatherley Jul 18
Replying to @holski_beat
there's a reason why you don't see many people gainfully employed as journalists on the left cheering this on, and it's not because they're part of the club, it's because it means a loss of a) income and b) reach outside the left
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Mr Demos of Pnyx Jul 18
I think the broader observation is being missed-why the market for left wing dailies has dissipated and why we are left trying to fight over a staunchly Liberal newspaper for a voice. In 1945 the Mirror and Daily Herald combined had by far the largest readership.
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Owen Hatherley Jul 18
Replying to @gem_ste @holski_beat
yeah, and that ending is combo of a) the UK trade unions being parochial cowards who wouldn't know hegemony if it hit them with the Prison Notebooks and b) Robert Maxwell
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Owen Hatherley Jul 18
Replying to @gem_ste @holski_beat
whether we could have still sustained a straight up small c conservative right-wing Labour daily like those two, idk - but equally telling that we never had a Taz, a Liberation or an Il Manifesto
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Mr Demos of Pnyx Jul 18
Imagine going back to the 50s and telling your average left wing activist that by 2020 the left would be crying about fair representation in the Manchester Guardian. You would be met with disbelief particularly as it had refused to support Attlee in 45, 50 & 51.
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Owen Hatherley Jul 18
Replying to @gem_ste @holski_beat
also - it represented then a readership/demographic about the size of the Liberal vote - 5%, thereabouts
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Chris Williams Jul 18
I've got at least one book that used to be part of the _News Chronicle_'s library. Makes me ponder why the NC folded but the ManGraun survived. Better technology? Different political positioning?
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Mr Demos of Pnyx Jul 18
It was the successful move from being the regional Manchester Guardian to the national Guardian I think.
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Owen Hatherley
this in itself is 'many bad things about Britain, explained' - nobody thinks the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung is a fucking local paper about Frankfurt, but here....
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Owen Hatherley Jul 18
....hence the gradual transformation into 'Hackney Tatler' (copyright ) and Helen Pidd as Correspondent for North of Watford Real People
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Alex Harrowell Jul 19
The FAZ does actually have a big regional section and a thick city section (that's localised in the print editions). Also if you ever handle a paper NYT a lot of the pagination and most of the advertising is city beat stuff
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