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Ben Collins
No matter how positive of a development, like being the first person to take a photo of a black hole, YouTube's algorithm will reward the most extreme, almost universally negative version of any topic. It's not just baked into the cake. It is the cake.
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Ben Collins Apr 12
Replying to @oneunderscore__
This garbage started on Reddit, where people looked through Bouman's GitHub to try to "prove" she didn't put in the work on the black hole image. It's all over "men's rights" subreddits like r/MGTOW. Here's her colleague explaining how they're wrong.
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Ben Collins Apr 12
Replying to @oneunderscore__
New from me: In search results for Katie Bouman, the woman who helped create the first image of a black hole, Instagram and YouTube push disinformation from misogynist communities and imposter accounts above facts.
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Ben Collins Apr 12
Replying to @oneunderscore__
When users tried to find Katie Bouman, the researcher whose algorithm discovered the first ever image of a black hole, they got this “official” account first. That account spreads a misogynist lie that Bouman didn’t do the work, plus incel verbiage.
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Ben Collins Apr 12
Replying to @oneunderscore__
There’s no other way to put it: these platforms are contributing to historical erasure. Incels and racists know how to game algorithms in invisible ways. YouTube and Facebook refuse to meet this challenge head on, letting them literally rewrite history.
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Ben Collins Apr 12
Replying to @oneunderscore__
Instagram/Facebook simply did not respond when we flagged to them that an incel was running an “official” account that was the top search when users looked up Katie Bouman, the woman whose algorithm found the first picture of a black hole this week.
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Ben Collins Apr 12
Replying to @oneunderscore__
Update: They just got back to me asking me what her real account is. Do people have to have an Instagram account for the company to take down the incel account clearly impersonating them? Do they have any sort of process there at all?
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Ben Collins Apr 12
Replying to @oneunderscore__
I will never understand why these companies don’t view disinformation pushed by incels and racists getting white glove treatment by their algorithm as an immediate crisis in need of emergency repair—and trust me, they do not.
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Donna Malayeri comma PhD Apr 12
Replying to @oneunderscore__
👏 Btw it's Dr. Katie Bouman. Let's use her title as much as possible.
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BBNNC Apr 12
As soon as I saw her photo, I knew “Misogynist online creeps are going to attack her.” Really wanted to be wrong about that, but here we are.
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Colleen Doran New York Comic Con Artist Alley J-4 Apr 12
Pretty much.
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dan phillips Apr 12
is proof that algorithmic capitalism will lead us to fear, fascism, war and decay more quickly than any other form of political control.
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Yeah, I said it Apr 12
Replying to @oneunderscore__
Lots of (deserved) criticism of YouTube, Facebook and Twitter, but I never read any articles looking at the absolute horror show Reddit appears to be. What bursts through to the mainstream of A the big players seems to be the every day business of Reddit.
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Yeah, I said it Apr 12
Replying to @aalleyne
Or, perhaps that's just my abiding impression because the only time I read about Reddit is in connection with the hostile activities of "alt-right", incels, men's rights, etc? If anyone has links to any good articles, please do share them.
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underratedtweetcheck Apr 12
Replying to @aalleyne
It is also where the Pepe meme came from...it’s not a coincidence
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Alexis Rose Apr 12
Replying to @stephspehn @aalleyne
No, that came from 4chan, not Reddit initially.
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Yeah, I said it Apr 12
Replying to @Lilikura @stephspehn
(Thanks, both) 4chan is another platform I've never heard anything good about, same again, the name only crops up when I hear about some crazy meme Trump retweeted, etc.
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Adam Sowell Apr 12
There is plenty good on reddit and 4chan, there is also plenty of bad. It's just like literally everything else, except with those sites you have plenty more anonymity than social media
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Yeah, I said it Apr 12
I think you've nailed the issue there. All social media platforms allow a degree of anonymity. It seems the more (small 'L') liberal platforms have the most transgressive members/content. Lots of people use the freedom wisely, but it only takes a few to screw it up for everyone.
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GirlGurl26 Apr 12
Even after Andrew Chael told them to buzz off, they still are attacking her. They’re basically ignoring a man’s truth to craft their narrative.
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SpookyNerd 🌙🦉🌹✡️♊️ Apr 12
Them stopping was not going to ever happen.
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