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Petulant Fig Nemesis (Mark 11:12-14)
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Petulant Fig Nemesis (Mark 11:12-14) 3 h
Odgovor korisniku/ci @thunk_life
oh man, you've been missing out - it's an amazing track.
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Petulant Fig Nemesis (Mark 11:12-14) 4 h
Would never argue against actually learning a language, but immersion seems to work radically better than anything else
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Petulant Fig Nemesis (Mark 11:12-14) 4 h
Original statement is explicitly about what lambdaschool grads are missing by not having language education in the style of current universities, so I don't think that it is a separate question at all.
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Petulant Fig Nemesis (Mark 11:12-14) 4 h
Odgovor korisniku/ci @ChiefScientist @rsg @LambdaSchool
I'd be more swayed by this line of argument if there were evidence that a reasonable chunk of Americans who pass language courses in school came out with anything even close to fluency. Hard to credit other claims when we can't detect a difference when we have decent metrics.
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Petulant Fig Nemesis (Mark 11:12-14) 7 h
Odgovor korisniku/ci @gin_n_jelly
I think a secure voting system is legitimately not that hard a problem, once you solve key distribution. But 1. That's a pretty big if. 2. Still going to require a fair chunk of education to teach people how to verify the transaction - would be a very juicy target.
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Petulant Fig Nemesis (Mark 11:12-14) 9 h
Odgovor korisniku/ci @gin_n_jelly
not that you don't know this already, just thinking aloud how you'd convey the difference to a layman.
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Petulant Fig Nemesis (Mark 11:12-14) 9 h
Odgovor korisniku/ci @gin_n_jelly
i think the really tricky bit is the proof of correctness - when you're beating the go master, the proof's in the performance. Proving voting schemes correct & verifiable starts getting into opaque cryptography pretty quickly.
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Petulant Fig Nemesis (Mark 11:12-14) 9 h
Odgovor korisniku/ci @bromethazine
i accidentally opened two youtube windows a fraction of a second apart and it took me until 1:30 to notice. only slightly less disorienting with one.
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Petulant Fig Nemesis (Mark 11:12-14) 14 h
Odgovor korisniku/ci @dysinger
I think there's a real danger that nerds like us will retreat to these tools smugly, while ordinary users without technical chops are left high and dry.
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Petulant Fig Nemesis (Mark 11:12-14) 15 h
Odgovor korisniku/ci @bhurt42 @rob_rix
to be fair, this isn't something the tech team had any control over at all. Twitter would crash too if Jack cruised around the streets of SF shouting root passwords through a megaphone.
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Petulant Fig Nemesis (Mark 11:12-14) 15 h
Odgovor korisniku/ci @rob_rix @bhurt42
lol. the security threats are always so much more mundane than we assume. Even XKCD was too optimistic:
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Petulant Fig Nemesis (Mark 11:12-14) 16 h
Odgovor korisniku/ci @bhurt42
Is it clear that it's actually a load issue? Absent further info, I would have assumed "it works on my machine" style deployment screwups. (Agreed that you could write something that handled that load as a shell script in cgi-bin without difficulty)
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Petulant Fig Nemesis (Mark 11:12-14) 16 h
Odgovor korisniku/ci @jfischoff
yeah, i wouldn't think it usually is (unless you're doing significant work in the TH itself - you do need to load up all that machinery, but would assume it's a one-time cost per compile?)
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Petulant Fig Nemesis (Mark 11:12-14) 16 h
Odgovor korisniku/ci @jfischoff
it is but i don't get the impression that parsing is superlinear - it's the later passes that try to inline and optimise etc? I could be wrong, haven't rigorously benched it.
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Petulant Fig Nemesis (Mark 11:12-14) 16 h
Odgovor korisniku/ci @jfischoff
plus the superlinear compilation time with GHC as haskell files get bigger.
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Petulant Fig Nemesis (Mark 11:12-14) 16 h
Odgovor korisniku/ci @jfischoff
we sort of expect our massive hand-hewn files to be slow and make allowances, TH just strikes us as an injustice because it _feels_ compact.
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Petulant Fig Nemesis (Mark 11:12-14) 16 h
Odgovor korisniku/ci @jfischoff
my understanding is mostly that it makes it possible to create a lot of code, both types and functions, so sometimes you end up with way more to compile than you'd think from looking at the source file.
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Petulant Fig Nemesis (Mark 11:12-14) 16 h
Odgovor korisniku/ci @rickasaurus @hillelogram @sumidiot
it's certainly easy to lose all the benefits of a good programming language by doing other things poorly. there's a maslow's hierarchy of sorts.
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Petulant Fig Nemesis (Mark 11:12-14) 16 h
Odgovor korisniku/ci @jfischoff
every TH models file pulsing a dark satanic purple
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Petulant Fig Nemesis (Mark 11:12-14) 4. velj
Odgovor korisniku/ci @amyhoy @patio11
At the very least, the reaction to noticing the gap between your estimate and the actions taken by an experienced practitioner should be to recheck your numbers.
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