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Oliver Moore
Bombardier has not managed to deliver to Metrolinx the six LRVs it was contractually obliged to produce by the end of Jan
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nfitz Feb 1
Replying to @moore_oliver
Rumours abound that Metrolinx is being obstinate about piddling details, and are ready to ship. That might meet their contractual obligations. Particularly as how thoroughly Metrolinx was thrashed in court, the last time they mistakenly accused Bombardier of contract violations.
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Oliver Moore Feb 1
Replying to @moore_oliver
Bomber, last Friday: We've delivered one and are "tracking for five more cars to be delivered ... over the next week or so." MX today: "Metrolinx has received three vehicles ... and we expect three more to arrive over the course of the next couple of weeks."
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Justin Time Feb 1
Replying to @moore_oliver
do they need to go and be welded in New York in a year
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Oliver Moore Feb 1
Replying to @moore_oliver
Perhaps worth mentioning that I spent a protracted period last week asking both Metrolinx and Bombardier how many vehicles had, at that point, been delivered. It took 19 hours to get a firm answer
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jkdossett Feb 1
Shocked-Oh hang on, no I'm not. Let's buy Oshawa's plant & retool/retrain to build & , subway trains & / for + NAmer market. Even starting from scratch, bet we'd still beat the schedule.
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Max Wyss Feb 1
Replying to @moore_oliver
Hmmm… Bombardier seems to have troubles almost all over the world… Metrolinx, New York MTA, SBB…
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Canardiain Feb 1
Replying to @moore_oliver
A question worth asking: Why is Metrolinx so intent on suddenly asking for 6 vehicles by this date? They have *nowhere* to test them. Could it be that they simply pushed for this as a reason to make Bombardier look bad, and try again to squirm out of their contract?
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Paul Smith...our house is on fire!🍑 Feb 1
Replying to @pdfguru @moore_oliver
Going forward why would anyone buy rail vehicles from Bombardier?
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Max Wyss Feb 1
They do have some good products; in France, IMHO, they are the leaders, and the TRAXX is a well designed product line. The thing is that according to (WTO) procurement rules, it is not easy to exclude a supplier from bidding, and if they have the best bid, you better take it.
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Paul Smith...our house is on fire!🍑 Feb 1
Replying to @pdfguru @moore_oliver
So an abysmal track record on meeting delivery deadlines cannot be part of procurement?!
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nfitz Feb 1
Also a - What kind of client attacks vendor, standing with a stopwatch? What has Metrolinx done with the initial 3 vehicles - I bet you they haven't even tried them on Eglinton yet! What are actually financial damages?
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Max Wyss Feb 1
Quite difficult. I am not an expert, but I think it would be possible in a two-stage bidding procedure, with pre-qualification (also called "beauty contest"). This is also why AnsaldoBreda (not AnsaldoSTS) was able to win orders… But since they are now Hitachi, they do better.
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Rail613 Feb 1
Replying to @moore_oliver
Has anyone actually seen those leave Kingston or Thunder Bay? And arrive in Toronto St Dennis Barns?
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Moaz Ahmad Feb 1
Replying to @moore_oliver
In this story it may help to clarify or otherwise inform/remind readers about the expected time line for testing and conditioning...both for the line and for the vehicles. Vehicles alone are something like nine months with initial deliveries followed by five-six mths per vehicle.
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Ian Howard 🚴 Feb 2
Replying to @moore_oliver
shocker
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Stöger Florian D. M. Feb 2
Replying to @pdfguru @moore_oliver
Don't forget Innsbruck, where they're now forced to operate a rail replacement service due to Bombardier delays :)
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