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Mark Cerqueira
Sorry , Java is definitely not "one of the hardest languages to learn right off the bat."
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Mark Cerqueira Jul 21
Replying to @dreyer_smit
Try C where you can't even have a string or other objects without learning about pointers and memory management.
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Jeremy Forrester🕹️ Jul 21
seconded! They made me learn Haskell in college much harder then when we did Java
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Mark Cerqueira Jul 21
Replying to @dreyer_smit
Or try a functional programming language like Coq or Haskell where I don't even know where to begin!
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Mark Cerqueira Jul 21
Replying to @dreyer_smit
Or C++ where forgetting a ; at the end of your class makes compiler spits out tens of lines of unhelpful errors.
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Cameron Reid Jul 21
Java has some annoying things (.equals) but if you start with Java they make sense. It's only when you already know programming...
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Mark Cerqueira Jul 21
Replying to @dreyer_smit
Java being a (mostly) compiled language let's beginners lean on that to navigate waters early on.
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Mark Cerqueira Jul 21
Replying to @dreyer_smit
And stacktraces when things go wrong are also usually helpful which can't be said of all languages.
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Mark Cerqueira Jul 21
Replying to @dreyer_smit
Not a Java apologist but saying Java is hard and then saying JavaScript is better is so, so ridiculous to me.
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Mark Cerqueira Jul 21
I did Coq in college for my functional programming and it was 😭😭😭. Only the name of the language made it slightly entertaining.
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Mark Cerqueira Jul 21
Replying to @dreyer_smit
Yeah. The this vs. that language is complicated and nuanced. Language ecosystems matter. e.g. AutoValue solves the .equals for you.
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Mark Cerqueira Jul 21
Replying to @dreyer_smit
Oh yeah! How could I forget Objective-C where syntax is a [little p@inful]!
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Heath Borders Jul 21
We basically only did C in college. We had no schemers. Just a ton of embedded folks.
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Javi Jul 21
I learned Pascal. And this was in 2008, I’m not old lol
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Heath Borders Jul 21
I think your school was better than mine. :)
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Javi Jul 21
I'm gonna say it probably wasn't lol
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Heath Borders Jul 21
We'll have to compare notes next week.
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Javi Jul 21
It was so bad I quit after 6 months lol do don't have a lot of notes 😅
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Heath Borders Jul 21
Heh, well then yes, mine was better.
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