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Marco Arment
What we want Dropbox to be: a folder that syncs, with basic shared-folder and share-link support, for which many of us will pay a reasonable monthly fee. That would be a great business. But it’s not enough for them. They want to be the next Microsoft Office/Google Docs/Slack.
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Marco Arment Jul 18
Replying to @marcoarment
In a way, “just a feature” was right — folder sync isn’t the kind of business Wall St. and VCs want. But Dropbox could have been an incredibly successful *normal* business. Instead, it will keep becoming a mediocre business-collaboration platform, at the expense of our feature.
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Marco Arment Jul 18
Replying to @marcoarment
The sad thing is that they won’t succeed. They have very little chance of competing well in the arena they’ve put themselves in. It’ll all be for nothing.
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Dan Moren Jul 18
Replying to @marcoarment
This is the caustic effect of the “growth above all else” paradigm that capitalism has entrenched.
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John Gruber Jul 20
Replying to @dmoren @marcoarment
I don’t want to be overly pedantic here, but I don’t think that’s intrinsic to “capitalism” *at all*. It’s only intrinsic to the modern culture of Wall Street and Silicon Valley.
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Dan Moren Jul 20
Replying to @gruber @marcoarment
Maybe not in theoretical capitalism, but certainly in the way it’s playing out in practice. Just like there’s a race to larger and larger margins. That’s not synonymous with bad, but there’s a lot of overlap.
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Jake McGraw Jul 18
Replying to @marcoarment @backblaze
I hope swoops in and starts offering this.
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Backblaze Jul 18
You can already share backed up files by leveraging B2. There's a few service built on top of B2 as well that can do it for you - Dropshare is one of them!
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Jake McGraw Jul 18
Replying to @backblaze @marcoarment
Thats great, but should offer Dropbox functionality circa 2012 and you'd capture everyone fleeing this mess. No free tier, maybe a discount when bundled w/ backup?
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Backblaze Jul 18
We'd love to build something like that at some point. Unfortunately our engineering teams are booked up for a while! :D
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Stephen Shankland Jul 19
Also, to Dropbox's point, there are other options: OneDrive, iCloud, Google Drive... Not all do what Dropbox does, but file sync is not some greenfield opportunity here, it's a market where the biggest ecosystem companies already have options.
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Backblaze Jul 19
Very true! There's tons of alternatives. One of our biggest jobs is to explain the difference between those services and a backup. That's hard enough for some folks to understand! 🤣
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Rebecca Slatkin Jul 18
Replying to @marcoarment
I used to say DropBox’s slogan should be, “It just works!” These days...not so much.
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Curtis Herbert Jul 18
Replying to @marcoarment
It would be great business if it weren't for the fact that they've raised lots of funding. You're talking about a healthy business, not a unicorn, which is what VCs want to see.
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Kurtis Jul 18
Replying to @parrots @marcoarment
Sometimes they even call these “lifestyle businesses” ... when you aren’t looking to unicorn status, which is unfortunate that they are ruining a good service by making it a product. I’m just waiting for iCloud folder sharing and bye bye Dropbox.
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Curtis Herbert Jul 18
Replying to @medicguy @marcoarment
Hey now, "lifestyle businesses" is a dirty word and VCs don't appreciate you talking like that.
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Kurtis Jul 18
Replying to @parrots @marcoarment
If only I was a 10x engineer...
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John Bergmayer Jul 18
Replying to @marcoarment
it would be fine if Dropbox, the company, just launched a bunch of different complementary products you could pick and choose, like they did with Paper. beyond me why they have to be integrated with the file sync app
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karl rove knausgård ☢️ Jul 18
Replying to @bergmayer @marcoarment
credit where credit is due, I’ve thought I should probably switch to iCloud Drive for quite a bit but it took these terrible updates to actually overcome my laziness and make me do it, which *did* significantly improve my user experience. Thank you Dropbox!
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