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Jonathan Edwards
Dissident computer scientist, working on human scale programming
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Ron Garcia 3h
Replying to @jonathoda
I see you've earned some storied detractors:
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Jonathan Edwards 3h
Replying to @johnzabroski
the past is a foreign country
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Jonathan Edwards 4h
Replying to @johnzabroski
Url or it didn’t happen
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Jonathan Edwards 4h
Programmers in the Hands of an Angry God...
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Brian Hempel 5h
We've posted the talk list for LIVE this year. Register and come join us on November 17!
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Jonathan Edwards 7h
Replying to @mpweiher
Thanks! I'm sure that 5 minutes contained years of experience.
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Jonathan Edwards 9h
Replying to @pvh
I am comparing UI architectures: MVC, MVVM, MVU etc. So I'm trying to use the examples that tend to be used to explain them.
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Jonathan Edwards 10h
Replying to @mpweiher
Can you point me to this? The Apple docs are completely impenetrable. Just API specs: no guides, tutorials, or examples.
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Jonathan Edwards 10h
Replying to @ogadaki @vuejs
Vue is nice but it is a hybrid of OO and FP ideas like React. The view isn’t retained, it is regenerated and diffed against the DOM based on keys.
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Jonathan Edwards Oct 19
Replying to @pvh
Looking for suggestions of better examples if you have any
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Jonathan Edwards Oct 19
Replying to @MarkusGaelli
Interesting, sort of distributed MVC
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Jonathan Edwards Oct 19
Replying to @julesjacobs89
Right. I'm going to add in a reusable component with a more compelling reason to retain local UI state. The OO solutions make that easier.
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Jonathan Edwards Oct 19
Replying to @pvh
Good questions! This example is the "hello world" of reactive systems. But a whole world of pain awaits when you move from sync to async, and that is where OO gets faulted. It's really hard to come up with examples of those problems. There is always an "obvious" workaround
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Jonathan Edwards Oct 19
Replying to @xananax
Thanks, but kinda undermines the point if I use React, which is in the FP camp
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Jonathan Edwards Oct 19
Replying to @chatur_shalabh
Thanks. Authentic MVC pattern
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Jonathan Edwards Oct 19
Replying to @tvdstorm
Yes. Trying to discuss how it's actually been used, not how it might be.
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Jonathan Edwards Oct 19
Replying to @coreload
so what smalltalk are you using?
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Jonathan Edwards Oct 19
Replying to @jonathoda
Sorry for the sloppy spec. To be a fair comparison it can't re-render the whole view on every change. There needs to be fine-grained notifications/updates.
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Jonathan Edwards Oct 19
Replying to @tvdstorm
right. I need to scale up the example to richer state with fine-grained observers. Cocoa/WPF/Angular have fancy stuff for binding views to models, but they are so complicated
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Jonathan Edwards Oct 19
Replying to @PaniczGodek
interesting will check it out
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