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Jeff Giesea🌿
I'm gay and gradually growing to hate the rainbow flag. I'm all for gay equality & love all people, but don't like seeing these issues used as a subversive *political* vehicle. This movement has fetishized liberationism to the point of absurdity, at great social cost.
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Jeff Giesea🌿 Jun 5
Replying to @jeffgiesea
Example: I used to see church banners with rainbow flags as a symbol of welcoming. "I'd be welcome here, thank you" I would think. Now I see them as emblems of a political ideology and agenda that feels anathema to the public good and my own values. It's a complex feeling.
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Eric aka Rocketman Jun 5
Replying to @jeffgiesea
Jeff, part of our human dignity is that we not be used by others, especially for their own gain. Life has enough of its own struggles. Selling our souls to political agendas has consequences. You can always count on being thrown under the bus when they are done using you.
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Jeff Giesea🌿 Jun 5
Replying to @jeffgiesea
Corporate virtue-signaling during is over the top. It's become a consumerist Hallmark holiday **for an entire month**. This is not a contradiction in capitalism but capitalism ad absurdum.
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Jeff Giesea🌿 Jun 5
Replying to @BudweiserUK
Like... here's the latest in beer marketing from
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Jeff Giesea🌿 Jun 5
Replying to @jeffgiesea
Cultural power has swung so far in the our direction (the gay direction?) that I now believe we need to be more culturally sensitive to Christians and other religious folks. Look at the disrespect and outright bigotry towards Mike Pence. Respect needs to go both ways.
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Ron Coleman Jun 5
Replying to @xchixm @jeffgiesea
I don't understand the concept of pride over sexual orientation. I get *not being ashamed*. But *pride* is earned by achievement or maybe, arguably, by being born into a family, tribe or nation (in which case the meaning is obviously stretched). But - "proud" of being gay? Why?
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Jeff Giesea🌿 Jun 5
Replying to @RonColeman @xchixm
Pride is a coping sentiment. It's a way of creating cultural space for comfort in your own skin. I understand that, but it's been turned into a cudgel. In the days of the Mattachine Society the initial slogan was "Gay is good," which was the "It's ok to be white" of its day.
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Jeff Giesea🌿 Jun 5
Replying to @jeffgiesea
I'll still attend Pride events in DC next weekend, and there are many people I love and respect in the community. My comments aren't intended to hate on anybody but to criticize our culture. We need a new reconciliation, and I'm here to build bridges.
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Jeff Giesea🌿 Jun 5
Replying to @keck553
You win the award for most patronizing comment.
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Jim Mason Jun 5
Replying to @jeffgiesea
My concern is the pendulum effect. Minorities are just that, minorities. When issues are pushed to extremes, with intent to "rile up" the other side, you risk pushing THEM to extremes. Then you end up with Christianity starting to say things like "Well, Islam has a point."
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JA ㅣㅣㅣㅣ Jun 5
Replying to @jeffgiesea
Will you admit now that gay marriage led to all this?
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Jeff Giesea🌿 Jun 5
Replying to @JimBobgraholski
This is a great point and resonates personally. It's a tricky needle to thread. It wouldn't be good for me if the pendulum swung too far in the other direction.
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❌Mike❌🎖🎖🎖#ProtectTerranceKWilliams Jun 5
Replying to @jeffgiesea
I’m 🌈 but my mouthwash doesn’t need to be...
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Jeff Giesea🌿 Jun 5
Replying to @Hindoongie
No, because that's dumb and not true
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Jeff Giesea🌿 Jun 5
Replying to @KAG11816
lol
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PressToDigitate Jun 5
If there's to be any Gender Fluid mixed in with my beer, I'll get it from the spigot it usually spews from, thank you very much.....
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Jeff Giesea🌿 Jun 6
Ewww 😂😂
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Carla Eskelsen Jun 7
Replying to @jeffgiesea
Not yet, it hasn't. The pendulum of power will have to swing a little farther to balance out centuries of hate, shame, torture and death. This is from a Mormon mother of five.
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Jeff Giesea🌿 Jun 7
Replying to @crowharp
It may be regional and generational. Having been raised Mormon and seeing you’re in Utah, I understand why you might have that perspective.
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