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Jason Beale Oct 22
It's as true today as it was yesterday, the day before, and the week before - and it'll be just as true tomorrow. You can't shake someone down who doesn't know they're being shaken down. You can't extort something from someone willing to give you what you want, particularly if...
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Jason Beale
...they have no knowledge that you're extorting them. You can't bribe someone to give you what you want if the victim is unaware of the "then" in the "if/then" proposition. The object of Trump's alleged quid pro quo was unaware of the quo.
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mjk Oct 22
Replying to @jabeale
"It is illegal for any person to solicit, accept, or receive anything of value from a foreign national in connection with a U.S. election.” .
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Kel Varnsen Oct 22
Replying to @jabeale
Attempting a shakedown and failing is still a crime. Oh, and by the way, Zelinskyy was definitely aware of what was happening.
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Bradley P. Moss Oct 22
Replying to @jabeale
1) that’s not what Taylor said: he said they knew 2) you don’t have to be successful at trying to engage in bribery/extortion to break the law. It’s why we have conspiracy charges. 3) criminal law doesn’t apply to impeachment, as Senator Graham infamously told us
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Impeach-This Oct 22
Replying to @BradMossEsq @jabeale
Sondland explicitly told Taylor there was NO quid pro quo and that the President himself said there wasn't one. That doesn't mean they weren't "successful" as you put it, it means there was no extortion attempted, period.
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