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Just in case someone is claiming that the documentary 'wasn't all that bad' - here's some press about it. I'd link to the original trailer, but they've taken it offline and replaced it with something utterly different. 1/
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Jay Jul 26
Replying to @FoundersMin @MBTS
Jason Allen, President of weighed in saying that it was "clickbait" Jonathan Leeman and Mark Dever both agreed with Danny Akin that they wanted nothing to do with the original trailer.
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Jay Jul 26
notes that footage of Matt Chandler referring to the use of "outside authority" is taken from an panel dealing with . Not theological liberalism, as made it appear.
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Jay Jul 26
Replying to @FoundersMin @MBTS and 2 others
Same article has this from - "“What I saw was edited footage that I believed to be misleading, which misrepresents important issues and what leaders in the SBC actually affirm.”"
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Jay Jul 26
Replying to @FoundersMin @MBTS and 3 others
If wants to set up a discussion of standards, I'd like to start with these questions: * what standards used to make this trailer * why were so many men and women misrepresented * why hasn't acknowledged their error * who exactly wrote the original copy
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Jay Jul 26
Replying to @FoundersMin @MBTS and 3 others
* do they see the problems they caused? * are they going to apologize to the slandered/libelled? * what checks are in place so it doesn't happen again * who has dropped out of the trailer, and why * and more.
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Jay Jul 26
Replying to @FoundersMin @MBTS and 3 others
It's not about me, or about making them 'pay'. It's about the basic question of truth. Can we trust them to do the right thing in the future? I don't think we can. Not after this, which is a shame. They have alienated many supporters including the Denhollanders themselves.
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Jay Jul 26
Replying to @FoundersMin @MBTS and 3 others
SBC members can disagree about these things, and they should reject false teaching. But if your tactic is to misrepresent other men to draw attention to your 'work', then you get all the pushback and response you deserve. You also, by the way, bear false witness against others.
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Jay Jul 26
Replying to @FoundersMin @MBTS and 3 others
Finally, if your response to my thread is to attack me of being a liberal or soft on truth - then you need to assess your own heart and priorities. Winning the war on liberalism is good. Doing it at the expense of the church itself and your own integrity is not. /end
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Jay Jul 28
Replying to @FoundersMin @MBTS and 3 others
I'm going to revive this thread later today and add some additional information. In the meantime, here's this article: "At some point, we need to reckon with the fact that the Conservatism of the Conservative Resurgence was part theological and part cultural..." /revive 10/?
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Jay Jul 28
Replying to @FoundersMin @MBTS and 3 others
"There’s an important difference. The question that Southern Baptists need to confront—especially [ones] born before 1970 or so—is whether the SBC is going to go along w/ the FoundersMin effort to conflate theological & cultural Conservatism." 11/?
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Jay Jul 28
Replying to @FoundersMin @MBTS and 3 others
Which is why this is interesting. I'm not an SBC member, but I have seen this happening in my 'sphere' as well. That's why I care about this. Well, that and the malicious attacks on several in the original trailer. 12/?
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Jay Jul 28
Replying to @FoundersMin @MBTS and 3 others
As I've mentioned, the original trailer has been replaced w/ something much different, but you can hear most of the original here: I'm not going to tell you how to think about it. I want you to listen to what was said and decide for yourself. 13/?
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Jay Jul 28
Replying to @FoundersMin @MBTS and 3 others
And then I want you to think about the kind of response this trailer has gotten from it's supporters who are mischaracterizing criticism as 'hatred' or 'outrage' from the liberal/SJW front. 14/?
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Jay Jul 28
Replying to @geekyguyjay
But if their response is that they're really upset "all the libs" or have "invoked the 11th commandment", then you have to ask what else they aren't understanding or if it's cluelessness or something more malevolent. 15/?
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Jay Jul 28
Replying to @geekyguyjay
When their response is to block people they disagree w/, misrepresent others, hide what they originally did, & act as though this whole thing is just symptomatic of Satan attacking God's people...You have bigger issues, like "are these people worth supporting at all?" 16/?
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Jay Jul 28
Replying to @ImKingGinger
Exhibit A from , the guy who edited the original trailer: 17/?
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