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Charlie Kindel
I build & run orgs that create things consumers & developers love. Now SVP Products @ Control4. I'm addicted to soccer & 1980's German cars. 💙⭐️💚
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Charlie Kindel 20m
Replying to @marcoarment
Kindel's 2nd Law: All subscription businesses eventually predominantly behave in ways inherently hostile to that business' customers.
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Charlie Kindel 2h
Replying to @geross22
yep!
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Charles Fitzgerald 17h
Replying to @ckindel
I gave Steve line to use at Gartner Symposium that “if we announced we were digging a hole on the dark side of the moon, Sun would announce JHole the next day, without any idea how to get there” but no one got it as he was laughing too much while delivering.
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Charlie Kindel 19h
Ok, that's funny.
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Charlie Kindel 21h
So true!
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Charlie Kindel 21h
Replying to @tygraham
Yes and no. I mean the results are pretty outstanding. By almost every measure MS is one of the most successful companies in the history of the world. Also, more than any other life experience, my 21 years at MS made me who I am professionally. I'm a pretty happy guy.
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Charlie Kindel 21h
Replying to @ckindel
15/ One more thing. This thread started with a sincere love letter about Mike Zintel. It turned into something else. I need to be very clear: No indictment of Mike in all this is intended. AT ALL. I probably should have started a new thread.
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Charlie Kindel 22h
Replying to @ckindel
14/ Some day I'l tell a similar story of a similar MS fuck-up I was partially responsible for that's REALLY embarrassing. That's all for now though.
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Charlie Kindel 22h
Replying to @ckindel
13/ The lesson I learned? If you start with technology you will fail. If you start with competition you will fail. Nail a specific customer experience first. A good litmus test for knowing if you are the wrong path is if you feel highly inclined to pre-announce.
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Charlie Kindel 22h
Replying to @ckindel
12/ The kicker, and the part of all this I feel the worst about, is that we all knew that the reality of what we were doing was purely reactionary to Sun's own vapor. We announced UPnP and the UPnP Forum to the world. That killed Jini. We won. By announcing it.
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Charlie Kindel 22h
Replying to @ckindel
11/ Never mind that nobody (including ME!) could actually articulate a real-world problem that it solved in the near term. It was classic technology for technology (and competitive) sake.
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Charlie Kindel 22h
Replying to @ckindel
10/ "Oh, and lets give it a nice open name!". "The word Universal sounds open!" "Yes it does. Good suggestion. And isn't the promise similar to what PnP in Windows does?" "Yep." "Universal Plug & Play it is then."
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Charlie Kindel 22h
Replying to @ckindel
9/ MS's response? "NFW. Not going to happen. Not on our watch! Here's what we're going to do: Let's create a lower-level standard that doesn't require a 'bytecode-based, garbage collected, language specific runtime' that promises 'open connectivity for all network devices.'"
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Charlie Kindel 22h
Replying to @ckindel
8/ Along comes Sun with their already-a-massive-threat-to-Windows, Java, announcing that they were going to own the middleware for the home network with Jini.
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Charlie Kindel 22h
Replying to @ckindel
7/ The writing is on the wall that the future of Personal Computing (aka Windows!) was tied to the concept of the Connected Home, home networking, smart home, blah-blah-blah.
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Charlie Kindel 22h
Replying to @ckindel
6/ At the time I was responsible for driving COM interop into MS's Java VM (Egads!). I was acutely aware of the angst.
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Charlie Kindel 22h
Replying to @ckindel
5/ Seriously, everything Sun did freaked us out. The end of the world for MS was nigh! MS had a competitor-focused culture (no company has ever been better at "chasing taillights"). We were also supremely paranoid.
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Charlie Kindel 22h
Replying to @ckindel
4/ True story (which still leaves a bad taste in my mouth; but I learned a valuable lesson from it that still serves me today): In '98 Sun announced Java Jini ( ). This was peak "MS is doomed because Java" time-frame...
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Charlie Kindel 22h
Replying to @ckindel
3/ UPnP would have still failed (broadly), but at least the world would have one less device discovery protocol. "The great thing about smart home standards is there's so many to choose from."
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