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After briefly skimming this any many others in the timeline, I get the idea that @BrianRoemmele has a worrying pattern of making threads with author citations on claims the original scientific authors did not make pic.twitter.com/mYIa4GZVnS
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Brian Roemmele
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Consider: millions of years ago our antecedents gave a massive sacrifice of their left hemisphere.
We lost a tremendous amount of short term memory and replaced it with Broca’s, Wernicke & the phonological loop.
But why?
So we can—talk.
Thus chimpanzees can do this—we can’t: pic.twitter.com/CDznxg37p1
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Brad Wyble
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It's a practice effect though. It turns out that people do even better than monkeys given similar training.
doi.org/10.3758/PBR.17…
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Brian Roemmele
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Brad, that paper was discredited by 30 years of research at this university.
Here are some of the 1000s of studies—with “trained” humans.
langint.pri.kyoto-u.ac.jp/ai/index.html
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Jonathan Pillow
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Thanks Brian, but can you point to a specific paper that contradicts the Cook & Wilson 2010 result? The list you posted includes papers about tool use, bottlenose dolphins and horses in mongolia, but not obvious which are relevant to chimps vs. humans for this task. Thanks!
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Brian Roemmele
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Jonathan, thanks for asking. I think the researcher Tetsuro Matsuzawa, PhD, Distinguished Professor, Kyoto University Institute for Advanced Study, has some of this in english, quite a bit is in Japanese. I am very certain the professor would love to address your questions.
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Brian Roemmele
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The contact page for the professor:
matsuzawa.kyoto/cv/en/
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Brad Wyble
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Thanks Brian. I've been in contact with Tetsuro through email about this and he wasn't able to answer our questions to my satisfaction (he said that for the chimps "no training is needed", which can't be true). If anyone has better luck, I'd like to hear it.
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Jonathan Pillow
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Likewise—thanks for the contact info, @BrianRoemmele. However, your tweet said the 2010 study had been "discredited", which is a pretty strong statement. For such a claim it would be nice to be able to point to a specific reference, if you have one.
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James Wu
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I’m much more worried that
1) Matsuzawa 2013 did NOT have this figure, but @BrianRoemmele cites it as such. As far as I can tell it’s not by Matsuzawa
2) Matsuzawa 2013 does not at all advance a Wernicke/Broca replacement theory, but a prefrontal WM development discussion pic.twitter.com/Vy5TxM4fo4
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Brian Roemmele
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James, interesting assertions. It would be helpful@for you to cite the precise aspects of the above mentioned scientists that are inaccurate.
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James Wu
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The scientists are not inaccurate (though some are controversial), your claims are, and you've put their names on your own claims. Do you dispute this?
Did Matsuzawa 2013 make this figure? Or did you make/find it elsewhere? Why did you put his name on it? pic.twitter.com/9eLgTx3xMu
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Brian Roemmele
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James, your academic dishonesty in the other allegations have been settled. I await your corrections to these false statements also. I again expect a professional response and apology one would expect from a PhD of @UW. Thank you for your consideration.
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Brian Roemmele
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James, here is a specimen image for you review where you “jumped to suspicions”. I hope this cited work assists you with your expected response. pic.twitter.com/ey95EiTug9
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Brian Roemmele
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James, are you actually asserting Alexander Chizhevsky did not spend 2 decades in a gulag for his scientific work? Or the facts of his research?
Or the fact that there are still some who call themselves scientists and want to attack people personally to a—virtual gulag?
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Roope Rainisto
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twitter.com/rainisto/statu… I'd worry about this also.
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