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Richard Hay
Everyone freaks out when Microsoft finds ways to recommend/makes users aware of Edge in Windows 10 but when Google constantly pops this reminder in other browsers, including Edge, when accessing their properties it is like ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Aaron Hall Sep 12
Replying to @WinObs
I don't mind the banner on a search page. But hijacking an installer process to display an in-OS ad? Come on. That's not okay.
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Richard Hay Sep 12
Replying to @GoodThings2Life
How is that banner not an ad for Chrome? I get that the processes are messy - typically not handled well - but if one gets criticized for it - then the other should. Just ultimately respect my choice and never prompt again. Done and Done.
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Aaron Hall Sep 12
Replying to @WinObs
I went to a Google web page... I expect them to promote their stuff there. I expect the same going to a Microsoft site. But intercepting an installer for anything other than a Smart screen safety reason... Not okay.
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Richard Hay Sep 12
Replying to @GoodThings2Life
I am not saying the method MS is testing here is OK - that is why they are testing I assume and they will see/consider the reactions to it - let's just hold accountability evenly across the platforms/processes.
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Aaron Hall Sep 12
Replying to @WinObs
Look at it the other way... If I install Edge on my Android phone, I don't get Chrome popping up an ad when I run Edge. And I shouldn't. I'd yell at Google for that too. No double standard here.
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Richard Hay Sep 12
Replying to @GoodThings2Life
Then as a follow on - I am OK with promoting your stuff such as Google does when browsing their stuff with Edge - bit I have to choose No Thanks on that dialog box EVERY SINGLE time - that is not OK either but it gets downplayed in the mix of things.
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Richard Hay Sep 12
Replying to @GoodThings2Life
Again - I hear you and everyone else - I am just pointing out that the intrusive steps need to be tempered across the board. MS needs to respect those choices and Google does as well.
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Aaron Hall Sep 12
Replying to @WinObs
If and when Google hijacks Edge, I'm happy to complain. But they haven't done that. Only Microsoft has with this. Which is why people have a right to be annoyed about that.
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Aaron Hall Sep 12
Replying to @WinObs
You're seeing it on a Google site. That's okay to me. If I see them inject Chrome ads on a Microsoft page, then I'll be all over that.
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Richard Hay Sep 12
Replying to @GoodThings2Life
Not once have I said in all of this dialog that people should not be annoyed about this - they need to know. The smaller "annoyances" like the prompts from MS and Google when you visit their properties with the others browser are similar - those choices are not respected.
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Richard Hay Sep 12
Replying to @GoodThings2Life
So you are OK with Edge doing that to Google users when they visit those sites? This is an acceptable level of prompting despite not respecting the choice made over and over again by the end user?
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Aaron Hall Sep 12
Replying to @WinObs
I'm okay that it happens even if I don't prefer it. If anything, why is it so stinking hard to remember my no thanks answer?
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Richard Hay Sep 12
Replying to @GoodThings2Life
Concur...
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vikas Sep 12
Replying to @blurrymars @WinObs
At the end of the day, what matters is would you really take edge as your daily driver. I personally, won't. It still needs a lot of work to be done.
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Richard Hay Sep 12
Replying to @wikazp @blurrymars
Edge is my daily driver - I also use Chrome and FF for some sies because they have been built for them and because so many non-standards were used/pushed in Chrome these sites accommodated them and so Edge has a few issues using those sites - but Edge is my default browser.
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vikas Sep 12
Replying to @WinObs @blurrymars
That's a tough choice to be honest. I use a lot of google services and they're so slowed down on edge that it irritates me. Are you using edge on a preview build?
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Richard Hay Sep 12
Replying to @wikazp @blurrymars
I use it as default on all of my devices - production, Fast, Slow and Release Preview Insider Rings. BTW - there has been some evidence recently that the slow down on Google services with Edge (and FF) are deliberate - I have not noticed it myself to a great extent.
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Richard Hay Sep 12
Replying to @kid_jenius @wikazp
It is not so much what Edge is missing for me - I need to use a couple of sites that just work much better with Chrome or FF - I suspect that is based on their underlying code being optimized for those other browsers and some of their non-standard "standards"
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Richard Hay Sep 12
Replying to @kid_jenius @wikazp
Ahh OK.
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