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vitalik.eth Dec 1
I refuse to take the convenient path of throwing Virgil under the bus, because I firmly believe that that would be wrong. I'm signing. Reasoning below.
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vitalik.eth Dec 1
Replying to @VitalikButerin
0. Prefacing with two points. [i] Conflict-of-interest disclosure: Virgil is my friend, [ii] this whole thing has nothing to do with EF. EF paid nothing and offered no assistance; it was Virgil's personal trip that many counseled against
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vitalik.eth Dec 1
Replying to @VitalikButerin
1. Geopolitical open-mindedness is a *virtue*. It's *admirable* to go to a group of people that one has been trained since childhood to believe is a Maximum Evil Enemy, and hear out what they have to say. The world would be better if more people on all sides did that.
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vitalik.eth Dec 1
Replying to @VitalikButerin
2. And in fact, this virtue of his has paid off in multiple other contexts; improved relations with Ethereum Classic, Hyperledger, and others. All orgs much milder than DPRK, but the point still stands.
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vitalik.eth Dec 1
Replying to @VitalikButerin
3. I don't think what Virgil did gave DRPK any kind of real help in doing anything bad. He *delivered a presentation based on publicly available info about open-source software*. There was no weird hackery "advanced tutoring".
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vitalik.eth Dec 1
Replying to @VitalikButerin
4. And if there was any indication that it was going in that direction, I would have reacted much more strongly against it.
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vitalik.eth Dec 1
Replying to @VitalikButerin
5. Virgil made no personal gain from the trip.
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vitalik.eth
6. So I hope USA shows strength rather than weakness and focuses on genuine and harmful corruption that it and all countries struggle with rather than going after programmers delivering speeches parroting public information.
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Solomon Sayings Dec 1
Replying to @VitalikButerin
A balanced voice at last. Signing it!
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Mustafa Al-Bassam Dec 1
Replying to @VitalikButerin
The FBI and US prosecutors have a long history of prosecuting technologists and hackers on exaggerated charges intended to chill their communities, unfortunately Virgil is another casualty out of many. I hope he gets good lawyers.
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María Paula Dec 1
Replying to @VitalikButerin
I’d sign because the sanctions are excessive. I believe the US is trying to use him as a precedent, just as Aaron, Ross, and others. He did infringe the law, but those sanctions and accusations are outrageous everyone deserves fair judgement. But where is the petition?
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Mustafa Al-Bassam Dec 1
Even with the sanctions, the charges seem silly, from what I've read in the doc. 1) Is giving a talk really a technology transfer? 2) We don't know if it he was sending crypto across the border to test the borderlessness of crypto (more likely), or to help DPRK evade sanctions.
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RR Craven bitcoin Dec 1
Replying to @VitalikButerin
He’s going to be in jail for a long time.
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Ron Martínez Dec 1
Replying to @VitalikButerin
A noble and brilliant advance across multiple projects seems daily to be devolving into an unending s**tshow of feuds, demonic or racist branding exercises, foolhardiness posing as idealism. Not laying all of this at your door. But the effect on supporters is taking its toll.
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Ladislav Stejskal Dec 1
Replying to @VitalikButerin
No need to apologize . How many died because of Virgil's actions? How many died because of wars, held accountable for Abu Ghraib? Many just shrug their shoulders. Yet cant bring themselves to give this young person a benefit of doubt. Parrot govs indictment.
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Steve Maximus Hodl 🌕🍿 Dec 1
Replying to @VitalikButerin
I hope you're in an undisclosed location in Russia right now.
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k4roz4gorus™ ₿ ⚡ 🌮 🔦🔦 Dec 1
Replying to @MrHodl @VitalikButerin
Better ready the shorts if he would get arrested.
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Coin Meerkat 😻🐾📈 Dec 1
Replying to @VitalikButerin
Depends if the DoJ feel like they can afford to show Justice or not. Common knowledge they felt like they had to punish Aaron beyond all reason to safe face. What’s different about the US these days?
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