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Roz Kaveney
We need to consider the extent to which a lot of the current wave of transphobic discourse is only in part about trans people at all. A lot of it comes from people who normally wouldn't care about us much one way or the other, but for various reasons see us as a symptom.
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Roz Kaveney Jul 25
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When the Pope goes on about 'gender theory'...when Lobsterman goes on about 'cultural marxism'...when Spiked or the NS or Sceptics or Tankiez go on about 'post-modernism' ... it's all the same thing. Ways of looking at the world which admit nuance and complexity.
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Roz Kaveney Jul 25
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Ways of talking about the world which subvert authoritative simple discourses.
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Roz Kaveney Jul 25
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A few years ago, when Peter Wilby was NS editor, I was given a book about feral children to review. A book which looked at how across time close observation of them has been radically affected by whatever set of ideas were fashionable at the time.
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Roz Kaveney Jul 25
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Note, it wasn't arguing simplistically that science is socially constructed. It was arguing that science is not done in a vacuum, that scientists end up being nudged by ideology and we need to understand that.
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Roz Kaveney Jul 25
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I was asked by the then literary editor to rework the piece to be less positive because, apparently, the NS 'didn't do po-mo'. I refused, and threatened to go public if they didn't publish my piece as written. I ceased, in general, to work further for one of my main markets.
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Roz Kaveney Jul 25
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I don't rule out the possibility that the on-line stroppiness of some young trans people may have offended NS staff members. Primarily though trans people are being regularly denounced by NS writers as a surrogate for intellectual trends.
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Roz Kaveney Jul 25
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This is why, in the name of science but neglecting the sheer complexity of what actual science says about us, we get yelled at by so-called sceptics.
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Roz Kaveney Jul 25
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It's also why a particular kind of 'Marxist' who wants crude workerism and a simplistic biologism back has decided we are part of globalism and neo-liberalism and need to be put a stop to.
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Roz Kaveney Jul 25
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These groups are not going to convert to political lesbianism. They just find 40 years of anti-trans rhetoric a convenient weapon just as they do the Hyacinth Bucket mean populism of Mumsnet.
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Roz Kaveney Jul 25
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We're a small talented minority. Some people really do hate us but more see us as an area in which the clock can be turned back.
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Roz Kaveney Jul 25
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That's one of the reasons why they claim trans people were hardly heard of before 2003 or so.
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Roz Kaveney Jul 25
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There are other factors involved and a lot of them are generational and to do with old elites that feel threatened by blue-haired millennials and post-millennials who aren't prepared to put up with their shit.
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Roz Kaveney Jul 25
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For example, if you've spent your career as part of a Left chumocracy who run things by moving the chairs around and turning a blind eye to a toxic blend of sexual abuse and nepotism, you might see the young as asking too many questions.
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lion Jul 25
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oof Roz that is ruthlessly accurate, major props
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Roz Kaveney Jul 25
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Saying 'oh but trans' is a good way of diverting attention just as it was in 1971 when Robin Morgan needed the cultural kudos of lesbian identifiation while still married. And decided to destroy Beth Elliott on a whim.
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Roz Kaveney Jul 25
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Thanks. There really is a conspiracy of dunces against us - and it's not all coming from within lesbian feminism. A lot of it regards them as useful idiots.
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Cath Booth πŸ§œπŸ½β€β™‚οΈπŸ”»πŸ’šβœŠπŸ½ Jul 25
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Post-1968: β€œWe are the people our parents warned us about” 2018: β€œThose young people are the people we warn you about. We became our parents.”
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Kbrads Jul 25
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Here for this analysis ^^
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Jane Carnall Jul 25
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I guess you're comprehensively uninterested in anyone too young to remember 1971 retweeting this thread? Okay then.
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