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Richard Dawkins 20 Aug 14
Ireland is a civilised country except in this 1 area: You'd think the Roman Church would have lost all influence.
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Aidan McCourt 20 Aug 14
Replying to @RichardDawkins
994 human beings with Down's Syndrome deliberately killed before birth in England and Wales in 2012. Is that civilised?
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Richard Dawkins 20 Aug 14
Replying to @AidanMcCourt
. Yes, it is very civilised. These are fetuses, diagnosed before they have human feelings.
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InYourFaceNewYorker 20 Aug 14
I honestly don't know what I would do if I were pregnant with a kid with Down Syndrome. Real ethical dilemma.
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Richard Dawkins
Abort it and try again. It would be immoral to bring it into the world if you have the choice.
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InYourFaceNewYorker 20 Aug 14
Replying to @RichardDawkins
There is a good argument for that. But not all kids with DS are profoundly disabled. Some can live on their own as adults.
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Prof Kerenza Hood #immodestwomen 20 Aug 14
I don't agree with that. key is that you have a choice. No one tells you that you should or shouldn't abort
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InYourFaceNewYorker 20 Aug 14
I don't think he was ordering me to do so should the situation come up (it won't b/c I don't plan on having kids)
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Prof Kerenza Hood #immodestwomen 20 Aug 14
sorry I was picking up on the suggestion it is immoral to bring a child into the world with a disability.
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Prof Kerenza Hood #immodestwomen 20 Aug 14
many people with disabilities make valuable contributions to our society and us as individuals
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InYourFaceNewYorker 20 Aug 14
It is an interesting dilemma. What about people on the autism spectrum (which I am)? Where would u draw the line?
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InYourFaceNewYorker 20 Aug 14
This is true, which is why there are no easy answers. Many great scientists, filmmakers etc. have/had autism.
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InYourFaceNewYorker 20 Aug 14
I think the question is what qualifies as a disability. Is autism a disability, or simply a different trajectory?
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InYourFaceNewYorker 20 Aug 14
And the question is HOW disabled does the kid have to be before it is deemed immoral to bring it into the world?
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Good God no! 🇪🇺 20 Aug 14
Try again and bring a little Adolf into the world? DS people never do any harm to anybody.
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Prof Kerenza Hood #immodestwomen 20 Aug 14
personally I think that any suggestion at a society level that we screen who should be born is unacceptable
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Richard Dawkins 20 Aug 14
Replying to @InYourFaceNYer
People on that spectrum have a great deal to contribute, Maybe even an enhanced ability in some respects. DS not enhanced.
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Atheos 20 Aug 14
If we have a legal choice in abortion why can't we apply the same logic to assisted suicide ,terminally ill
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InYourFaceNewYorker 20 Aug 14
Replying to @RichardDawkins
This is true. I have a feeling this dialog is going to explode. ;) This would be better for a blog post! :)
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InYourFaceNewYorker 20 Aug 14
Isn't that a strawman argument?
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