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Richard Dawkins 20 Aug 14
Ireland is a civilised country except in this 1 area: You'd think the Roman Church would have lost all influence.
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Aidan McCourt 20 Aug 14
Replying to @RichardDawkins
994 human beings with Down's Syndrome deliberately killed before birth in England and Wales in 2012. Is that civilised?
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Richard Dawkins
. Yes, it is very civilised. These are fetuses, diagnosed before they have human feelings.
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Jonathan Langdale 20 Aug 14
If an animal experiences "fear" is that a human feeling or a feeling?
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Stanley Taylor 20 Aug 14
The fetus of a pig is a pig; fetus of an elephant, elephant. Fetus of a human being not human? What is it then
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Richard Dawkins 20 Aug 14
Precisely my point. Unless you are a vegan (most Pro-"Lifers" are not) you are in no position to object to abortion
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InYourFaceNewYorker 20 Aug 14
I honestly don't know what I would do if I were pregnant with a kid with Down Syndrome. Real ethical dilemma.
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Richard Dawkins 20 Aug 14
Learn to think in non-essentialist ways. The question is not "is it 'human'?" but "can it SUFFER?"
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Richard Dawkins 20 Aug 14
Replying to @InYourFaceNYer
Abort it and try again. It would be immoral to bring it into the world if you have the choice.
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Roland De Vries 20 Aug 14
Replying to @RichardDawkins
Can you give any reasons why one question or the other matters?
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InYourFaceNewYorker 20 Aug 14
It is an interesting dilemma. What about people on the autism spectrum (which I am)? Where would u draw the line?
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Richard Dawkins 20 Aug 14
Replying to @Roland_DeVries
Yes. Suffering should be avoided. Cause no suffering. Reduce suffering wherever you can.
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Good God no! 🇪🇺 20 Aug 14
Try again and bring a little Adolf into the world? DS people never do any harm to anybody.
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Richard Dawkins 20 Aug 14
Replying to @InYourFaceNYer
People on that spectrum have a great deal to contribute, Maybe even an enhanced ability in some respects. DS not enhanced.
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Richard Dawkins 20 Aug 14
Replying to @bitch2410
I read a short story about that. How Hitler's mother almost had an abortion! I think it was by Roald Dahl.
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