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(WTA SPOILERS): This is going to be a long thread since there's a lot to cover. Before we get to WTA, you have to know what's coming in Monday's overnight date episode. It starts where we left off, and that's Madison pulling Peter aside after he'd eliminated Kelsey.
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RealitySteve Feb 22
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Madison doesn't specifically tell him she's a virgin. Says that if he were to sleep with someone else, it would be really hard for her to move forward in this. Peter says, "So what are you saying? If I were to spend the night w/ some1 else, this isn't something you could do?"
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RealitySteve Feb 22
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Madison responds with, "In no way do I want to give you an ultimatum, but actions speak louder than words." That's how it's left as they head to Australia. All 3 women are living in the same suite in Australia. Hannah Ann's date is first, then Victoria's.
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RealitySteve Feb 22
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While Victoria's date is happening, Madison tells Hannah Ann she'd have a real hard time if he slept with anyone else. Hannah Ann in an ITM that she was really thrown off by what Madison said, they knew what they signed up for, and that's not fair to Peter.
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RealitySteve Feb 22
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During Madison's date, Hannah Ann tells Victoria that Madison told her she's saving herself for marriage. Victoria is obviously annoyed by this, it doesn't sit well with her, and she too thinks that's not fair to Peter.
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RealitySteve Feb 22
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Correction to what I reported 2 weeks ago: Madison DIDN'T find out from Hannah Ann & Victoria first that Peter was intimate with them. I'm pretty sure she suspected it based on their reactions to her telling them she was saving herself, but wasn't specifically told by them.
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RealitySteve Feb 22
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Madison's dinner portion w/ Peter is where she tells him she's saving herself for marriage & she "woudn't be able to say yes to an engagement & move forward if you've slept w/ the other women." Peter says "So you'd throw this all away if something happened w/ the other women?"
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RealitySteve Feb 22
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Madison says she doesn't want to ask bc she doesn't feel comfortable, but there's things she needs to know for herself. Peter then admits he doesn't want to give details, but he has been intimate with the other women. This is hard on Madison and she gets up from the table.
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RealitySteve Feb 22
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She doesn't storm off, she just excuses herself. Peter cries at the table, then walks after her. She cries on his shoulder and then the episode ends with them ultimately saying goodnight to each other. So that's how Monday night's episode will end.
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RealitySteve Feb 22
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The following week on March 2nd which is the "Women Tell All," that episode will begin picking up from there, which is essentially the rose ceremony for the overnight dates. Victoria shows up, then Hannah Ann, then Peter. Madison isn't there right away. Eventually she shows up.
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RealitySteve Feb 22
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Her body language isn't great, but ultimately, Peter sends Victoria home, Hannah Ann accepts her rose, and when Peter says Madison's name, she pauses, then reluctantly accepts. This is when the WTA will start.
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RealitySteve Feb 22
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The 17 women at the WTA are: Katrina, Maurissa, Alexa, Kylie, Sarah, Kiarra, DeAndra, Savannah, Alayah, Victoria F, Kelsey, McKenna, Victoria P, Sydney, Lexi, Shiann, and Tammy. Notably absent are Natasha and Kelley.
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RealitySteve Feb 22
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Word broke yesterday that Kelley told people she wasn't invited to the WTA. This is true. Why? I have no idea. But if you finished 5th & you were popular on the season, & you don't get invited to WTA, it means they didn't like her. No other reason. Not sure why Natasha wasn't.
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RealitySteve Feb 22
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But basically Kelley wasn't invited which 1) is kinda bullshit 2) doesn't make a hell of a lot of sense 3) isn't addressed at the WTA and 4) pretty much kills any chance of her being the "Bachelorette."
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RealitySteve Feb 22
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There were only 2 women who got called up to the hot seat at the WTA: Victoria F. and Kelsey. Victoria F. apologized to Peter for how she acted. But she twice addressed the marriage cheating allegations and said they were false. Oh, Victoria. Still holding on to that, huh?
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RealitySteve Feb 22
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She can deny it all she wants. I spoke to the women involved. They know the truth. Hell, Victoria knows the truth, she just doesn't want to admit it for fear of backlash. Not a good look for her, but not the least bit surprising she continues to deny it.
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RealitySteve Feb 22
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Kelsey on the hot seat talked about her journey, her being very emotional, seemed like a "Bachelorette" audition, & Ashley I came out of the audience and gave Kelsey a giant bottle champagne and praised her for being open w/ her emotions.
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RealitySteve Feb 22
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There was cattiness between Tammy and Sydney with everyone talking over each other. Lexi was trying to talk to Tammy, Shiann was in between them, and they got pretty intense w/ each other. Chris had to keep reminding Tammy not to talk over people and listen.
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RealitySteve Feb 22
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The Alayah and Victoria P. situation came up, Alayah expressed that Victoria P. was a good friend, was supportive of her, then on the show was completely different. Then people kinda turned on Victoria P. Savannah came at her pretty good.
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RealitySteve Feb 22
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Rachel Lindsay came out & they did a segment on bullying where she they showed the nasty, racist messages some of the women had received this season and Rachel also read them aloud, profanity and everything. Great thing to do - won't change anything. Some fans are just morons.
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RealitySteve Feb 22
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Preview for the finale showed clips of both Hannah Ann and Madison meeting his family, so we know now that it happened. Replayed the Barb "don't let her go, bring her home to us" clip, and pretty much every clip we've already seen already.
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RealitySteve Feb 22
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Come Tuesday, I will share what I believe to be how this all plays out this season. There are some things I'm sure of, and still a few holes I'm not definitive on, but, I think I have a very good idea now what goes down.
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