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Peter Flax
If helmets are like seat belts, why do countries with the lowest usage of helmets have the lowest fatality rates for cyclists, while the nation with the highest rate of helmet use (US) has the highest death rate? Cyclists need safe places to ride, not trope-tweeting bureaucrats
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my life for PE Jul 4
Replying to @Pflax1
Are not most deaths in cars head injuries ? so surely they should wear helmets ?
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David Chase, other social media in profile. Jul 4
Replying to @ianrobo1 @Pflax1
Not most according to what I read. A factor in 43% of deaths, injuries to the thorax are also very bad. (Only one study, but it's a study.)
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my life for PE Jul 4
Replying to @Dr2chase @Pflax1
cheers but still a significant number, BTW I had an crash last week when someone went into me, anger my head, had an helmet on as I always do but it is nothing like a seat belt ...
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David Chase, other social media in profile. Jul 4
Replying to @ianrobo1 @Pflax1
But, because so many people drive and because we're so bad at car safety (relative to other countries) car crashes are a leading cause of TBI in this country. The two main cyclist objections to helmets -- where to store, and sweaty head -- are not really problems for drivers.
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David Chase, other social media in profile. Jul 4
Replying to @Pflax1
And that clown's supposed to be an "expert", no doubt, not some moralizing tribal safety astrologist. Do those people understand what this does to their reputation? It's not like we're going to engage with them as if they knew WTF they were talking about, when clearly they don't.
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Colin Reuter Jul 4
Replying to @Pflax1 @rusto88
the best reason to wear a helmet is so you don't get victim-blamed by morons when a car kills you (you'll still get victim blamed though)
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Skip Pile Jul 4
Replying to @Dr2chase @Pflax1
It's disheartening to see people from AASHTO, which is completely data driven for concrete or soils testing, parroting unsubstantiated views of industry shills on helmet use for people riding bikes.
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my life for PE Jul 4
Replying to @Dr2chase @Pflax1
The main objection is if you have the proper infra as per Holland then no need ?
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David Chase, other social media in profile. Jul 4
Replying to @ianrobo1 @Pflax1
That is the most obvious objection, there are others. There are other, better measures that nobody talks much about -- daytime running lights, e.g. It makes it seem as if biking is intrinsically dangerous (it's a little worse than driving, far safer than motorcycling). /
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Shane Phillips πŸšΆβ€β™‚οΈπŸ˜πŸŒ³πŸŒ‡πŸš‰πŸš²πŸ›΄ Jul 4
Replying to @Pflax1
How amazingly appropriate that this guy's name is basically Kill Car.
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David Chase, other social media in profile. Jul 4
Replying to @ianrobo1 @Pflax1
It makes cycling seem more like sport or recreation, than like daily transportation (I ride 3000+ miles per year, entirely commuting and errands). It's also irrational -- if we were rational, rather than helmets for bikes, not for cars, it would be helmets for men, not for women.
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David Chase, other social media in profile. Jul 4
Replying to @ianrobo1 @Pflax1
Per-trip, men driving have a higher crash mortality rate than women cycling.
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David Chase, other social media in profile. Jul 4
Replying to @ianrobo1 @Pflax1
There's also the public health angle; lack of exercise is very dangerous vs bicycle crash risk (if we're rational about risk, it's 10x in this country, give or take a factor of two). Discouraging cycling is bad for public health, & rah-rah-helmets (probably) discourages cycling.
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David Chase, other social media in profile. Jul 4
Replying to @skip_sf @Pflax1
So, just to raise a question, how do you know that they're completely data driven for concrete and soils testing? Given that we discovered that the emperor is barefoot, how sure are you about the rest of the clothes?
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Skip Pile Jul 4
Replying to @Dr2chase @Pflax1
Exactly. If they're willing to overlook peer reviewed research regarding the efficacy of helmets for bike riders, why not believe they've overlooked research that disputes their standard testing methodologies?
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Paul Mitchell Jul 4
Replying to @Pflax1
Best case scenario is both. Side note, my 9 year old daughter is in Mexico right now, and she and her mom are riding bikes with no helmets... she’s a bit freaked out as we are diligent helmet users, but she will be fine.
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Steve 'Doc' Baty Jul 4
Replying to @Pflax1 @kathyfrancis56
Pronounced β€œass-Hat-Oh!”
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Mediocre White Manβ„’ Jul 4
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