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Human, I think.
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๐—›๐—ผ๐—บ๐—ผย ๐—ฆ๐—ฎ๐—ฝ๐—ถ๐—ฒ๐—ป Oct 10
Replying to @nidkirm
You're the former rather than the latter.
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๐—›๐—ผ๐—บ๐—ผย ๐—ฆ๐—ฎ๐—ฝ๐—ถ๐—ฒ๐—ป 23 Feb 19
Replying to @zarakayk
Just give their consulate a visit in Australia. What can go wrong?
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๐—›๐—ผ๐—บ๐—ผย ๐—ฆ๐—ฎ๐—ฝ๐—ถ๐—ฒ๐—ป 23 Dec 18
Replying to @GasmaNZ
Aah, I see. "Pro-disease people" is indeed a more fitting title than "anti-vaxxers". Simpler yet accurate.
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๐—›๐—ผ๐—บ๐—ผย ๐—ฆ๐—ฎ๐—ฝ๐—ถ๐—ฒ๐—ป 23 Dec 18
Replying to @GasmaNZ
"Pro-disease people" Well, that's new. Who are those?
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๐—›๐—ผ๐—บ๐—ผย ๐—ฆ๐—ฎ๐—ฝ๐—ถ๐—ฒ๐—ป 22 Dec 18
Replying to @zarakayk @RedLFCBlood
I'm sorry if you're offendedโ€”that wasn't my intention at all. I was just trying to dive into the philosophical problem of whether or not actions stemming from past beliefs (religion in this case) could be considered "forced" or "unchosen". Once again, I apologize.
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๐—›๐—ผ๐—บ๐—ผย ๐—ฆ๐—ฎ๐—ฝ๐—ถ๐—ฒ๐—ป 21 Dec 18
Replying to @zarakayk @RedLFCBlood
In other words your beliefs led you to cover up like any other action. A lot of what we do if not everything originate from our beliefs. I wouldn't call those actions "forced". You just changed your mind & now regret your past beliefs & actions. Your other reason is valid though.
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๐—›๐—ผ๐—บ๐—ผย ๐—ฆ๐—ฎ๐—ฝ๐—ถ๐—ฒ๐—ป 21 Dec 18
Replying to @zarakayk @RedLFCBlood
Well, you answered the question that started this thread, i.e it was your family that forced you to wear the Hijab. In that case, you certainly didn't have a choice. Thanks for clearing that up. Cheers!
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๐—›๐—ผ๐—บ๐—ผย ๐—ฆ๐—ฎ๐—ฝ๐—ถ๐—ฒ๐—ป 16 Dec 18
This is precisely what I was wondering.
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๐—›๐—ผ๐—บ๐—ผย ๐—ฆ๐—ฎ๐—ฝ๐—ถ๐—ฒ๐—ป 16 Dec 18
Replying to @zarakayk @RedLFCBlood
I would argue that carrying out an action owing to an indoctrinated belief is still a ๐˜ค๐˜ฉ๐˜ฐ๐˜ช๐˜ค๐˜ฆ. As terrorists massacre people due to their indoctrination and are still held accountable. You c๐˜ฉ๐˜ฐ๐˜ด๐˜ฆ to wear the hijab through your own will โ€” indoctrinated or otherwise.
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๐—›๐—ผ๐—บ๐—ผย ๐—ฆ๐—ฎ๐—ฝ๐—ถ๐—ฒ๐—ป 15 Dec 18
You're right. But it would be damn hard to disassociate Medina verses from the Qur'an since Muslims believe it to be the literal word of God rather than an inspired one and hold such emphasis on its uncorruptness.ย But I hope, given time changes can be made especially in Tafsir.
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๐—›๐—ผ๐—บ๐—ผย ๐—ฆ๐—ฎ๐—ฝ๐—ถ๐—ฒ๐—ป 15 Dec 18
Replying to @RedLFCBlood @zarakayk
Both are terrible situations but the latter is worse than the former.
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๐—›๐—ผ๐—บ๐—ผย ๐—ฆ๐—ฎ๐—ฝ๐—ถ๐—ฒ๐—ป 15 Dec 18
Replying to @RedLFCBlood @zarakayk
I agree, oppression is bad but some oppression is worse than others. A woman in a secular nation being forced by her relatives to wear hijab can leave her family or file a complaint. However,a woman in a theocratic state will instead be fined or even jailed for not being "modest"
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๐—›๐—ผ๐—บ๐—ผย ๐—ฆ๐—ฎ๐—ฝ๐—ถ๐—ฒ๐—ป 15 Dec 18
On your other point, you have my endorsement: Islam indeed needs to be reformed. Work of Muslims like is very crucial.
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๐—›๐—ผ๐—บ๐—ผย ๐—ฆ๐—ฎ๐—ฝ๐—ถ๐—ฒ๐—ป 15 Dec 18
Replying to @RedLFCBlood @zarakayk
I fail to see what we're arguing here; I'm merely asserting that government violation of women's inalienable rights is far more detestable than social pressure. That's all, I think you can agree with me on that.
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๐—›๐—ผ๐—บ๐—ผย ๐—ฆ๐—ฎ๐—ฝ๐—ถ๐—ฒ๐—ป 15 Dec 18
Replying to @RedLFCBlood @zarakayk
Not necessarily, for instance,Bible contains oppressive material but is rarely enforced. Whether Islam can be reformed is another matter.I condemn enforcement of religious garments from a government through legislation more than society's compulsionโ€”from a libertarian standpoint.
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๐—›๐—ผ๐—บ๐—ผย ๐—ฆ๐—ฎ๐—ฝ๐—ถ๐—ฒ๐—ป 15 Dec 18
Replying to @RedLFCBlood @zarakayk
But it does matter who it is that imposes the teachings that come from the literal interpretation of scripture. I must make it clear that I utterly despise the rationale behind hijab and its mandatory enforcement. I was just curious as to her personal case.
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๐—›๐—ผ๐—บ๐—ผย ๐—ฆ๐—ฎ๐—ฝ๐—ถ๐—ฒ๐—ป 15 Dec 18
Replying to @zarakayk
You were not given the choice by society, culture, relatives or the government?
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๐—›๐—ผ๐—บ๐—ผย ๐—ฆ๐—ฎ๐—ฝ๐—ถ๐—ฒ๐—ป 15 Dec 18
Replying to @TheShahabKhan
First of all, I'm sorry you went through all of that. I'm curious, what was your parents' response to this abuse? Did they condemn or condone it?
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๐—›๐—ผ๐—บ๐—ผย ๐—ฆ๐—ฎ๐—ฝ๐—ถ๐—ฒ๐—ป 15 Dec 18
Replying to @YFNquestioner
Thank you, you've been most helpful.
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๐—›๐—ผ๐—บ๐—ผย ๐—ฆ๐—ฎ๐—ฝ๐—ถ๐—ฒ๐—ป 15 Dec 18
Replying to @JoeSuisTanjung
I would instead argue that "Good Muslims" are "bad humans". I know it depends on who defines "Good Muslims" but in most cases, my statement is reasonable.
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