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John Cleese Jun 11
Similarly, the Romans enslaved the British for 400 years. So are we due reparations from the Italians ? And Sir Isaac Newton was a shareholder in the South Sea Company, which included slave trading among its activities What do we do about his statues ? It's rather complicated
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Duncan Jones
I can answer that, John. If the repercussions of slavery on a group of people alive today clearly reveal that their ability to achieve equality in education, career, achievment & fairness under the law has been hampered by that legacy, they should receive reparations.
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Duncan Jones Jun 11
Replying to @JohnCleese
Hard to argue Brits are still suffering from that in the year 2020.
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Duncan Jones Jun 11
Replying to @JohnCleese
As for which statues need to come down, if the statue is a celebration of a person whose main contribution to society is the success of their immorality, that statue needs to go. Famous as a notorious slave trader? Pull ‘em down. Revolutionary Physicists? Keep ‘em up.
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DK Sizzle Jun 11
Not to mention that between then and now the British Empire happened. The Brits weren’t exactly egalitarian in their rule.
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Duncan Jones Jun 11
Replying to @DKSizzle @JohnCleese
As i enjoy saying, Britain was conquered for 1000 years and spent the next 1000 taking it out on everyone else.
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Falko Löffler Jun 11
Also, what have the Romans ever done for the Brits?
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Duncan Jones Jun 11
Replying to @DJLoff @JohnCleese
Hah! I’d be all for the Brits getting reparations in the early dark ages. We’d lost everything. Broken clan/kingdoms at each other’s throats, native culture destroyed, Druid groves burned, constant raids by Irish and Scottish clans. Those people deserved help. Not us.
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Britt J. L. Halliburton Jun 11
Dude, the Romans essentially split Britain into its currents states, effectively creating Scotland and removing entire peoples from their natives lands in England. So yes. Roman oppression affects the UK to this day.
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Duncan Jones Jun 12
Has the ability of those who claim a "British cultural heritage," to achieve equality in education, career, achievement & fairness under the law" been hampered by that legacy? I am more than game for you to make that argument. Where you can, it needs addressing.
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UNARMOUREDworld👕 Jun 12
👏 it's almost as if you actually think this through, rather than looking for loopholes to be used as whataboutery, there is a logical and pragmatic way to solve this situation.
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Simon Jun 12
For me it's education. Educate people in area like the slave trade and racial prejudice. I did the repeal of the bastard corn laws and italian unification at a level. Why now replace that with the civil rights movement etc and make people more aware of the struggles.
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