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Todd Blankenship 8 Dec 18
Replying to @Herms98
Also, nothing in the manga suggests the Fusion Dance is better at unifying the mind/drawing out power than the Potara. Though I guess it does make a certain sense that doing a coordinated dance would unify minds better than just putting on earrings.
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Todd Blankenship 8 Dec 18
Replying to @Herms98
Next up, Daizenshuu 4’s entry on the Potara (1995). This basically just repeats Elder Kaioshin’s vague “like Fusion, but the effect is greater” statement, with no further clarification. The lack of a time limit is again seemingly separate from the “greater effect”.
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Todd Blankenship 8 Dec 18
Replying to @Herms98
Then we get Daizenshuu 7’s Potara entry (1996). This one flat-out says a Potara fusion has greater power than a Fusion Dance one. There’s no vague “greater effect” line here, so it seems whoever wrote this interpreted “greater effect” as “moar power” and made that explicit.
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Todd Blankenship 8 Dec 18
Replying to @Herms98
Breaking chronological order for a bit, the Chouzenshuu 4 Potara entry (2013) is pretty much just a reprint of the Daizenshuu 7 one, and therefore says precisely the same thing about Potara giving more power than Fusion Dance. See the above tweet for a translation.
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Todd Blankenship 8 Dec 18
Replying to @Herms98
Back to the 90s, the second volume of the GT Perfect Files (1997) describes SS4 Gogeta as having power “tens of times” (数十倍) greater than a single SS4. That’s a description that’s going to come up again.
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Todd Blankenship 8 Dec 18
Replying to @Herms98
In fact, for that matter Toei’s official GT site says precisely the same thing about SS4 Gogeta, with precisely the same picture too.
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Todd Blankenship 8 Dec 18
Replying to @Herms98
In 2004, to mark the release of the game DBZ3/Budokai 3, V-Jump ran a feature on the three movie characters included in the game, and gave them all “estimated power levels”. Gogeta was 2.5 billion, Broly was 1.4 billion, and Cooler was 470 million. Hooray?
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Todd Blankenship 8 Dec 18
Replying to @Herms98
(I suppose there's nothing in this bit that's directly relevant to the main topic at hand, but it does seem to get brought up a lot.)
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Todd Blankenship 8 Dec 18
Replying to @Herms98
In 2009, the manga Super Exciting Guide described the power-up from the Potara as so incredible it’s like multiplying the two characters’ power levels together. The caption even helpfully reads “Goku x Vegeta = Vegetto”.
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Todd Blankenship 8 Dec 18
Replying to @Herms98
However, the SEG also describes the Fusion Dance as multiplying the two people’s power together.
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Todd Blankenship
Jumping all the way into Super, in ep.114 (2017), Vados describes the Potara as increasing Caulifla/Kale’s power by "tens of times” (数十倍), which you may recall is the same description earlier given to SS4 Gogeta compared with a regular SS4.
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Todd Blankenship 8 Dec 18
Replying to @Herms98
Then this very year (2018), the Dragon Ball Super Warrior Sticker Wafers Z (ultimately the only real source of canon) put out cards pegging Vegetto Blue as 9300 and Gogeta Blue as 9600. Truly evidence that demands a verdict.
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Todd Blankenship 8 Dec 18
Replying to @Herms98
Finally, the latest Weekly Jump has a DBS: Broly promo piece describing Gogeta and Vegetto as “equally-matched ultimate trump cards” (いずれ劣らぬ最強最後の切札だ). If you’re a master of origami, you might be able to twist that into some shape that doesn’t spell Gogeta=Vegetto.
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Todd Blankenship 8 Dec 18
Replying to @Herms98
I wish I had some sort of final conclusion, but it really comes down to what you do or do not opt to view as canon. Even the original manga isn’t super specific on this issue.
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Vegetto Blue ✊🏿✊🏾✊🏽 8 Dec 18
Replying to @Herms98
Third it will be a miracle if gogeta leasts 1 min in ssj blue
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Somnath サムナス 8 Dec 18
Replying to @supervegito13 @Herms98
Dance fusion always lasts for 30 minutes. Unless you're severely beaten. And except GT version Gogeta.
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David T 8 Dec 18
Replying to @Herms98
Could this be translated as "many times over" or is it basically saying "ten times as strong"?
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Yiannimus Prime 10 Dec 18
Replying to @Herms98
Didn't remember that one, actually.
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Vegetto Blue ✊🏿✊🏾✊🏽 8 Dec 18
Replying to @Herms98
First Gt isn't canon Second on gotenks metamor doesn't work like that
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Ollice85 17 Dec 18
Replying to @supervegito13 @Herms98
Gt is canon to the anime 5 years after dbz, get over your self. You're one of those annoying fans 😒
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Jethur 8 Dec 18
Replying to @Herms98
En resumé Gogeta = Vegetto maintenant vos gueules et rentrez chez vous. Le vieux kaioshin parle mais il n'a aucun argument, qu'est ce qui specialement plus puissant les potaras ? Parce que c'est de objets "divin" Tes meme dieux qui se font victimisé par Puipui et Yakon ?
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