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MikeLovesBeer Sep 25
But I do get your geographic argument. Why New England more so than any other places. I'm just looking as a whole.
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Easy Pretzel 🥨 Sep 26
When places like MT, NM, WY, and UT (seriously) have more medals than the state of New York, you have a credibility problem. Blame the NE, NY, PA, and other east coast breweries all you want, but that is pathetic. Why would they want to attend or submit when that happens?
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MikeLovesBeer Sep 26
There is so much that you are saying that branches out into different directions that makes it hard to reply in 240 characters. But in a whole I don't think it is the BA's fault if brewers don't want to compete b/c those reasons are so broad that they can't take care of them all.
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Easy Pretzel 🥨 Sep 26
Isn’t that the responsibility of a national dues paying association? What do they exist for if they aren’t taking care of all of their members? This is an approximate $16mm revenue generating event to promote craft beer & BA members, yet half of the country doesn’t participate?
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MikeLovesBeer Sep 26
You know they can't address every single brewer's concern on why they don't compete/pour. There has to be some responsibility on the brewer themselves. And there is also nothing the BA can do to accommodate brewers who simply don't want to compete/pour.
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Easy Pretzel 🥨 Sep 26
That is a weak excuse, that is their responsibility as an association! 75% of the population lives east of the Mississippi, yet most states in that area don’t participate. That’s bad for the craft business, and a poor service for their dues paying members.
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MikeLovesBeer Sep 26
Ok, let's list reasons a brewer won't compete and what can be done. Entry fees? The BA aren't going to drop that price. Shipping fees? BA already takes care of transport of festival beers, which costs a lot more than the comp beer. This should be on brewers.
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Easy Pretzel 🥨 Sep 26
That’s not my job, that is what the association should figure out. Anything else is an excuse.
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MikeLovesBeer Sep 26
But's that an excuse. You are clamoring for something to be done but offering no potential solutions. But like I said it's more broad than that. There is no simple solutions to all of a sudden make every east coast brewer want to compete.
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Easy Pretzel 🥨 Sep 26
I have plenty of solutions, but again that’s not my job. The BA should do an outreach to the east coast, have more transparency on the process, and coordinate with each states association to solve this. Don’t call it a BA event if it’s mostly exclusively west coast breweries.
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MikeLovesBeer Sep 26
The BA already does that. There is a 30 something page guide that is sent to every single BA member about the GABF registration process. It outlines everything & it even offers pointers like consolidating shipments of comp beers with guilds & other brewers.
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Easy Pretzel 🥨
Clearly what they are doing isn’t working. If you were the CEO would you be satisfied? If so, don’t be my CEO.
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Jeremy Danner Sep 26
I’m likely going to regret wading into this, but if they had the largest consumer attendance with the most festival booths on the floor and the highest number of entries in the competition ever, how in the heck can you say that it “isn’t working?”
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Jeremy Danner Sep 26
I mean no disrespect when I say this, but it sounds like you’re not the target audience for that festival. That’s the mistake we keep making. We assume that all beers/events should appeal to the 1%. If we’re gonna keep growing this thing, we have to play to the masses too.
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Jason Notte Sep 26
Every year, there's grumbling about the . Every year, it draws more people than the year before and packs events throughout the city. Some may feel they outgrow it, but it's an incredibly important event for Oregon beer.
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Easy Pretzel 🥨 Sep 26
I can’t speak for everyone, but from what I’ve gathered the east coast doesn’t feel welcomed. The east coast people I spoke with who did enter and did attend were very disappointed with the results. I get it’s a widely successful event, but many out east feel it could be better.
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MikeLovesBeer Sep 26
Who isn't disappointed when they don't win? You put a lot of work into making a good beer and it doesn't win. You're a bit bummed but it doesn't mean there is fundamentally something wrong with the competition. You hike up your pants and try again.
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Jeremy Danner Sep 26
So you’re not going to address the numbers there?
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Easy Pretzel 🥨 Sep 26
When the perception is the competition isn’t fair, you need to release the numbers to your members and have complete transparency. That will go a long way. I’m not a brewer, nor do I work for one, but that’s what I hear from everyone I talk to.
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Easy Pretzel 🥨 Sep 26
Do you have who entered? All that is posted is who is pouring and who won. For one reason or the other the east coast is not represented, the BA should find a way to make it happen. I have to visit some clients, look forward to the responses. ✌🏻🍺
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