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Embrace the Void Pod 5h
Imagine trying to dunk on a book like this in a world where books like Weapons of Math Destruction and Invisible Women also exist. 😏
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Embrace the Void Pod 5h
I'm really not taking the piss, I took your data seriously, tracked it to its source and found several legit issues with it. That seems like respectful discourse to me. I certainly wish there was more robust data available.
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Embrace the Void Pod 5h
I'd also caution that this is the same argument form I get from race realists who want to say that the FBI stats in America show that blacks are either biologically or culturally predisposed to be more violent, because they are a relatively high percentage of the prison pop.
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Embrace the Void Pod 5h
Again, you're dealing with 33million people vs. 200,000, it's easy to get some weird percentages if you tweak the other numbers, but do you at least agree this data is not actually evidence that TW commit assault at a comparable rate to men, or is it a substantive study?
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Embrace the Void Pod 6h
I think our cultural views on what testosterone does to someone are deeply in need of a lot more scientific review at this point. Also, depending on age you're either talking prepubescent boys or individuals receiving hormone blockers.
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Embrace the Void Pod 6h
The person linking the source was claiming it as evidence that TW commit assault at comparable rates to men. I'm merely pointing out the data doesn't seem to support that claim.
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Embrace the Void Pod 6h
Sorry. I should say at least half of the 60 are not assaults, it’s unclear if they are the result of sex work, though it’s likely.
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Embrace the Void Pod 7h
Many women I know were sexually assaulted, it’s a topic I care very deeply about. We can teach young men to be better without needing to harm trans women in the process.
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Embrace the Void Pod 7h
I was in Venture scouts, a coed organization. Sometimes we shared tents. It was good to learn you could coexist with others in ways that didn’t have to revolve around sex. And again, the religious right says the exact same thing about homosexuals.
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Embrace the Void Pod 7h
Also it appears half of the 60 are sex work where the author assumes the crime was violent. Unless I misread that.
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Embrace the Void Pod 7h
Okay, so I tried to parse this chart and trace it back to its source. It appears several of the numbers in the TW column are rough estimates, and that there are confounders here concerning sample sizes and reporting details. Would you agree?
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Embrace the Void Pod 8h
Replying to @benshapiro
It’s T2 but with a woman. It’s pretty clear where your issues reside.
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Embrace the Void Pod 9h
Can you point me to the study showing that TW assault cis women at a higher rate than cis lesbian women? I was under the impression no such data exists but I'm happy to look at the evidence.
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Embrace the Void Pod 9h
No, I genuinely do not, and the fact that folks keep saying "oh come on you know it's different" while not explaining the difference in any consistent way leads me to believe there isn't a salient moral difference you can raise.
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Embrace the Void Pod 9h
Scouts has a long history of refusing to allow gay people in to protect members, how is this argument different?
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Embrace the Void Pod 10h
Folks would say letting in openly gay scouts and scout leaders would be entirely new. I’m still not seeing how you can claim there is a substantial difference in the positions, unless you think trans individuals somehow pose a greater threat than gay individuals.
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Embrace the Void Pod 10h
You, a Woke New Yorker: There is no good basis for continuing to use the death penalty in modern society. Me, a dead eyed ethicist New Yorker:
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Embrace the Void Pod 11h
So you’d be for applying that same safeguard with gay scouts?
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Embrace the Void Pod 11h
I get that’s how you see it. I also knew folks who were and are really sure keeping the gays out of scouts, or keeping my mother from being a scout leader, were totally reasonable safety choices.
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Embrace the Void Pod 11h
Replying to @DogLadyUK @mragilligan
Right, like it was a straw man ten years ago to say banning gay marriage is comparable to banning interracial marriage. 🤷‍♂️
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