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Jewish Labour Movement Apr 8
We also voted overwhelmingly to support . You are a divisive race baiting organisation and we want nothing whatsoever to do with you. Go away and leave us and other minorities alone.
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Daniel Anderson Apr 8
With respect, Brexit is a position that the Jewish Labour Movement should be politically neutral on.
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David Hirsh
With respect, Jews have an interest in open and democratic Europe; preventing the walls going up again; in opposing xenophobia & nationalism. Jews have an interest in opposing narratives of hate against 'globalists' 'cosmopolitans' 'finance capital', liberal educated elites, etc.
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Daniel Anderson Apr 8
All those points can apply irrespective of us being inside or out of the EU. Taking a stance on Brexit is, I maintain, inappropriate.
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David Hirsh Apr 8
With respect. Those are arguments against Brexit. Jews have an interest in a strong, cohesive, democratic, free, open Europe. Populism, xenophobia, racism, antisemitism, the radical critique of European democracy - they're dangerous to Jews.
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Adam Langleben Apr 8
The most populous Jewish wards in Barnet had the highest remain vote with massive remain majorities.
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David Hirsh Apr 8
By threats and bullying, the Brexit movement tries to make ordinary arguments in favour of European union seem somehow divisive and disgraceful, even un British. The Brexit project caused division and exclusion but it cannot face that fact. It tries to blame everybody else.
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Daniel Anderson Apr 9
Well maybe but the Jewish community is, like other communities and the U.K. as a whole, divided on this issue.
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David Hirsh Apr 9
The Jewish community is less divided on Brexit than the Brexiters would like to have us believe. Jews voted strongly against Brexit, about 70%. But the point is the danger of the rise of populist politics, exclusive notions of Britishness, and readiness to trash the economy.
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Daniel Anderson Apr 9
David on your second point we agree. As regards your first point can you forward me the stats. Thanks.
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David Hirsh Apr 9
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Stewie Griffith Apr 9
People generally want to live in their own societies, subject to their own cultural values & use the society that they build to help perpetuate their own values & culture. However much it might benefit Jews, such open societies are not in the interests of the underlying majority.
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David Hirsh Apr 9
Thank you, Stewie, for illustrating my point. Brexit thinking puts Jews outside of the community. It is immensely threatening to Jews but not only to Jews. It is also threatening to democracy. Things that are threatening to Jews are necessarily threatening to democracy.
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Laura🇪🇺Marcus🔶 Apr 9
David, the editor of the Jewish Chronicle is a Brexiteer! So are a number of members of my family. I don't get it. I really don't. Jews of all people should understand that the EU was a movement for peace and protection against fascism!
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David Hirsh Apr 9
This was an interesting piece of research. The generation which actually fought fascism and feared fascism was more likely to support Britain's membership of the European Union than those a bit younger than them.
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