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David Deutsch
Yes, it's a derangement—the most harmful and dangerous in Western society. Very widespread. But *it's not hatred*, though it sometimes causes that. Nor racism (occasionally causes that too). It's a compulsion to legitimise hurting Jews. 'Antisemitism' is a misleading term for it.
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David Kedmey 13 Apr 18
Replying to @DavidDeutschOxf
Maybe by calling out the harm and danger to non-Jews, some progress can be made. What would you say is most destructive about it for Western society?
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David Deutsch 13 Apr 18
Replying to @DKedmey
Where does one begin? Without it, the UN would be a force for human rights. The Labour Party would be a constructive centre-left movement… But those are just drops in the ocean. The *most* destructive things it causes are hard to explain in tweets.
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🚮 13 Apr 18
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David Deutsch 13 Apr 18
Replying to @giggs_boson
Much of that is exaggerated, but yeah.
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🚮 13 Apr 18
Replying to @DavidDeutschOxf
But how could we forget that we live in a society today where people feel comfortable to express their "anti-Zionism", almost as a badge of honour in some circles. There is no resolution to these people other than the destruction of Israel - it's implicit in their rhetoric.
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seismic guy 13 Apr 18
Replying to @DavidDeutschOxf
So you don’t think the compulsion to legitimize hurting Jews is caused by hatred? I would’ve thought that hatred/racism was the cause.
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David Deutsch 13 Apr 18
Replying to @Marquees_Bird
Most people with that compulsion, even at the intensity described by O'Neill, can introspect "do I mind sitting near a Jew on a bus…or marrying one…do I favour discrimination against Jews…?" and truly conclude no, they're innocent of all that—and hence that he's smearing them.
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seismic guy 13 Apr 18
Replying to @DavidDeutschOxf
Right...well do you have an intuition of where the compulsion comes from? Why is anti-semitism such a surviving and powerful disease? It’s all so fucking dark.
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David Deutsch 13 Apr 18
Replying to @Marquees_Bird
No. But one can't understand *why* something is happening if one has drastic misconceptions about *what* is happening. Newton couldn't have discovered his law of gravity without first understanding that the planets orbit the sun, not Earth.
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lee h. alderman 13 Apr 18
Replying to @DavidDeutschOxf
So the question to be answered is what's driving this compulsion? Could it be a self-serving motivation - within a local culture, individuals mistakenly think they're helping to solve a problem for the good of the collective?
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fanthoshi 13 Apr 18
Replying to @DavidDeutschOxf
It won't hurt when an entire nation legitimizing systematic killing & oppression of natives for decades to claim a land that was promised to them 3000 years ago. Syria and Saudi's are horrendous but for this long, I can't draw a parallel.
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Jiten de la Tierra 13 Apr 18
Replying to @DavidDeutschOxf
This concept of to “legitimise hurting Jews” is not on the radar of the commentators. Instead they carry on talking about anti-semitism. You ought to write an article yourself about it.
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Evan 13 Apr 18
Replying to @DavidDeutschOxf
No, we don't hate Jews. It's the actions of the Israeli gov't. Military occupation of Gaza/West Bank, military detention/torture of Palestinian minors, demolishing homes & building settlements. The fact that Israel never strikes ISIS, only the Syrian gov forces.
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Evan 13 Apr 18
Replying to @DavidDeutschOxf
We do condemn Turkey, Saudi Arabia, France, UK & USA for their horrible military actions.
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Evan O'Leary 16 Apr 18
Replying to @DavidDeutschOxf
I wonder if the tradition of self-criticism in Judaism is like an attractor for irrational criticism from infallibilist philosophies. Like how people picking on academics disproportionately seems explainable by the fact that only academics will take bad criticism seriously.
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Jim Ryan 13 Apr 18
Replying to @DavidDeutschOxf
Agree Israel is criticized disproportionately but misleading to say left doesn’t criticize Saudis. Overall, the argument would have more potency if you, O’Neill or Phillips ever criticized Israel for anything. Or expressed a scintilla of empathy for the Palestinians.
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Libertarpopulist 13 Apr 18
Replying to @DavidDeutschOxf
These people, bds, corbyn, neo-Nazis, etc lack any other purpose. Just as a psychopath kills to try to feel anything these antisemites hate Jews to give their miserable lives a goal. Without their Jew hatred I doubt the Nazis would have amounted to much.
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